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With God On Our Side - Episode 1

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Episode I: The Early Crusades, 1950-1968
Post-War fundamentalism is marked by optimism, mass revival meetings, and disdain for worldly politics. But current events -- from America's growing anti-Communism to the election of Catholic John Kennedy to the Civil Rights movement -- prod evangelical Christians into the political arena. Dismayed by Supreme Court rulings banning school prayer and encouraged by the Goldwater '64 campaign, conservative Christians rise up in Anaheim, California, to launch a nationwide revolt against sex education.
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Main credits
Skaggs, Calvin (Producer)
Skaggs, Calvin (Director)
Robertson, Cliff (Director)
Distributor subjects
AIDS/HIV; Abortion; American Studies; Christianity; Cold War; Education; Gay Studies; Health Care Issues; History (U.S.); Media Studies; Politics; Social MovementsKeywords
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Youth on the march, a 20th
century crusade.
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I think the religious renewal
that started coming up in the
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\'40s and \'50s, there were
younger men, either coming out
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of seminary or out of bible
colleges or out of churches
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that caught a vision.
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We were in the war years.
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There was this great solidarity
in America.
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And Americanism was so
significant and there was
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almost nothing negative.
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And to be American and to
be Christian were almost
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synonymous.
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Come on now.
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Everybody try it.
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Sing it out with us.
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So that\'s where the awakening
came, with this younger
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element that came out of World
War II and just after.
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I participated in Youth for
Christ in its hey day.
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I was in high school at
Berkeley High School.
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But the Oakland youth for Christ
probably averaged on an
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average Saturday evening,
they would have maybe
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3,000, 3,500 kids.
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And they\'d move to the
other side for
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something big, the arena.
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And maybe there would
be 10,000 or 15,000.
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I went all the time.
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I loved it.
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Youth for Christ was a
wonderful opportunity
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for kids like me.
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We got together then with
other evangelical kids.
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And we would sing and
we would pray.
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It was very much the in
thing to do then.
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It didn\'t have any kind of
sense of fanaticism or of
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craziness to it.
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And then there would always be
some outstanding musician or
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musicians that would perform and
sometimes very well known
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people that at least bordered on
certainly being capable of
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being professional musicians.
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But in those days,
what you heard at
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Youth for Christ was--
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and this had a big impact on me
because you heard converted
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movie stars, converted
gangsters, converted athletes.
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And, of course, that\'s
what I wanted to be.
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I used to be sort of sad that
I was just a vanilla
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Presbyterian minister\'s son.
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And I sort of envisioned myself,
maybe I would get
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really bad and I would go be a
crock because they had Jim
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Vaus, the wire tapper.
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We had contests and we
had special guests.
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Once I hosted both Gypsy Rose
Lee and Governor Mark Hatfield
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on the same program.
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But that was a typical Saturday
night, spectacular
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music, spectacular speaker, and
then always the evangelist
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invitation given at the
end of the meeting.
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Tonight, Jesus of Nazareth
passeth by.
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There may never be another
night like tonight.
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Tonight may be the last time
that Jesus will ever
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pass your way again.
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Our scripture tonight
is taken from Amos.
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One of the earliest leaders of
Youth for Christ was a young
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man named Billy Graham.
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He was its first professional
staff member hired to carry on
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the great work of reawakening
America to Christianity.
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Out of Youth for Christ, Graham
forged the evangelistic
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crusades that would gradually
encompass the earth.
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The Graham crusades combined
entertainment and evangelism
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to attract thousands.
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And God says the wages of
a broken law is death.
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The wages of sin is hell.
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God says it and the scales
do not balance.
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I believe you are here by
divine appointment.
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I believe this is your night
with all mighty God and it may
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never come again like this.
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Oh, if we could only come
to the place of all out
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commitment, we could turn the
world upside down and start a
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counter revolution, a spiritual
revolution with love
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instead of hate and prejudice,
following the Christian flag
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until Christ is known
around the world.
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I discussed with the President
the need of a spiritual
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awakening in the United States
that will put a new moral
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fiber into our society.
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I told him that we had three
religious awakenings in
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American history before.
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And I believe that all the
factors are present for the
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fourth great religious
awakening
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in the United States.
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Religious crusades were nothing
new in American life.
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Evangelical movements have
repeatedly swept across the
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American landscape.
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These were made up of
Protestants who believed they
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had a direct and personal
experience of salvation.
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They believe the Bible was the
inspired and infallible word
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of God and God\'s charge
was to convert others.
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In the 18th century, George
Whitfield led a revival called
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The Great Awakening.
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It spread throughout
the 13 colonies.
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It inspired evangelicals to
claim their religious and
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political freedom.
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The Great Awakening fed the
fire of the American
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Revolution.
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A century later, a second Great
Awakening surged through
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the south and west in thousands
of tent meetings.
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In the north, revivalist Charles
Finney preached that
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the great business of
evangelicals was to fight for
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legislation that follows
the law of God.
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Finney spurred Christian
commitment to the
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abolitionist movement.
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Some say the second Great
Awakening gave birth
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to the Civil War.
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In the late 19th century,
evangelist Dwight L. Moody led
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another wave of revivals.
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He exhorted evangelicals to
resist the lures of modernism.
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But when modernism prevailed as
American manners and morals
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began to change during World War
I, Billy Sunday jumped in.
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He preached his way across the
country, railing against
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drink, dance, and sexual
immorality, fighting the good
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fight, prohibition.
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Slam and lock the door
on your past life and
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throw the key away.
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In the 1920s, evangelicals saw
the teaching of Darwin\'s
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theories of evolution as
a direct assault on the
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infallibility of the Bible.
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But in 1925 when teaching
evolution went on trial in the
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Scopes case, evangelical\'s
passionate defense of the
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scriptures made them the
laughing stock of the nation.
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Humiliated, evangelicals
retreated from public life.
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More than 40 years ago in my
college training for the
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ministry, I was instructed
repeatedly religion and
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politics do not mix.
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I grew up in a generation where
Christians felt being
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involved in politics was
questionable as to whether
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that was sinful or not.
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Many members of my own church as
a Baptist Church, so-called
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mainstream church, weren\'t
even registered to vote
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because that was too much
of an involvement.
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In fact, the devil would get a
great deal of comfort out of
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Christians getting active
in the political scene
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when I was a kid.
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So social action was something
that the liberals did.
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And, of course, liberals
were not of God.
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The premise, I suppose,
theologically was that
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ideally, if we meet the
spiritual needs of society, we
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automatically, as a side
benefit, cure the political
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and social ills.
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Idealistically, that\'s
a correct premise.
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But in reality it doesn\'t
work out that way.
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Some evangelical preachers were
startled into action by
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their fear of international
communism.
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It has been called a religion.
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It has been called an
international criminal
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conspiracy.
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Certainly, it is more than a
social theory, more than a
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method of political
organization
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or an economic system.
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It is a directed way of life.
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It is communism.
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The best way to defeat communism
is for us to live
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Christianity and American
democracy
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every day of our lives.
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I know, father.
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I\'m glad I\'ve come home.
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I mean.
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I remember vividly praying
every night, now I
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lay me down to sleep.
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And I\'d do my prayer.
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And then I would get to the
list where, you know, God
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bless grandma and grandpa.
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And then at the very end of the
prayer, the last thing I
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always said, and Lord help the
communist fight to be over
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because it was that
real to me.
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It was perfectly clear to those
of us who worked in that
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field that this country had a
government that was crawling
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with Soviet agents.
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The Communists were a worldwide
missionary program.
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They wanted conquest of the
earth, just like the Muslims
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do, just like the Christians
would like.
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Only the Christians don\'t do
it by force except for the
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stupid aberration
in the Crusades.
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I believe that Christian people
had to be political as
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well as religious.
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I don\'t think that we are full
Americans if we\'re not
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concerned about our nation as
well as our politics as well
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as our faith.
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Christian Crusade presents the
worldwide anti communist
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ministry of Billy James Hargis,
America\'s crusading
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evangelist.
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On today\'s program we\'re
going to discuss the
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communist war on God.
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I wonder if you realize,
friends--
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In the beginning it was
hard to sell them.
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They didn\'t jump on my wagon.
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I had to put some
fear in there.
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I\'ll be real honest with you--
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I hesitate to use the word.
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But I had to tell them
some of the terrible
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things that are happening.
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I had to tell them some of the
terrible things that I think\'s
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going to happen if we don\'t
change this political
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situation, if we don\'t change
our religious concepts.
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Ladies and gentleman, why
are we ashamed of God?
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Why are we ashamed of our
founding fathers at a time--
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And they would come to here this
fat kid talking about God
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and country.
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--to help us save this
country from
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godless anti Christ communism.
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I have just signed a contract
with one of the biggest record
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companies in America.
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I am producing three anti
communist albums for them in
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the next 12 months for national
distribution.
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In 1956 I\'d read an article by
a man named Dr. Fred Schwarz
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in a magazine.
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And I called him up and asked
him to come out to St. Louis
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and give a series of lectures on
communism, which he did at
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the St. Louis Medical
Society in 1957.
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I remember the article had
listed him as an evangelical.
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And emerging from this
bottomless pit of godless
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materialism, captivated by a
glamorous vision for the
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regenerate mankind, recruiting
the youth by perverting their
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religious fanaticism, utilizing
every modern
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scientific method, this torrent
is sweeping the earth.
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I think it\'s high time religious
people become more
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concerned about the conflict
that the communists have
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forced upon us.
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If we don\'t stop the advance of
communism, none of us will
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be free to preach the gospel.
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Neither I nor any of my
fundamentalist brethren
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hesitated during World
War II to volunteer
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for the armed services.
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So why should we hesitate now?
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Now, the communist
teaches that the
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individual is not important.
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The communist teaches that man
as an individual is not
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important at all, that even
private property is not
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important, that all of it
belongs to the state, that we
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should live for the state.
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Jesus taught the opposite.
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He taught the value of private
property and he taught the
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value of the dignity of the
individual and the importance
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of every individual soul.
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Our concept of government fits
the basic nature of man and
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man desires to be independent.
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And, therefore, in my opinion,
ultimately, he is not going to
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accept the Soviet system which
denies the existence of God,
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which most people believe
in around the world--
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Most Christians still
felt communism was
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a government issue.
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The prospect of a
Roman Catholic
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president was more alarming.
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Evangelicals stepped forward
during the Kennedy campaign to
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defend church, state
separation.
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Senator Kennedy never looked
stronger than he does right
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now in the big cities of these
middle Atlantic states.
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But he cannot afford to loose
any of this ground in the face
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of the revival of the
anti Catholic drive
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against Senator Kennedy.
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There was a lot of
anxiety about his
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being a Roman Catholic.
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Roman Catholic Cardinal had some
years, not long before
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that, said that the separation
of church and state is a
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shibboleth of doctrinaire
secularism.
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And we reacted very negatively
to that as the Roman Catholic
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Church\'s view of separation
of church of state.
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We saw it, rather, as the
American contribution to good
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government, which is the
opposite end of that.
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And so there was a tremendous
amount of anxiety.
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Dr. Criswell wrote a pamphlet
about why a Roman Catholic
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should not be president
of the United States.
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The political folks understood
that he needed to make clear
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his church state views.
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And he did so in 1960
at a pastor\'s
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conference in Houston.
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[APPLAUSE]
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While the so-called religious
issue is necessarily and
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properly the chief topic here
tonight, I want to emphasize
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from the outset that I believe
that we have far more critical
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issues in the 1960 campaign.
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And they are not religious
issues, for war--
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I remember all the rhetoric
about how bad it would be.
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And I remember being told that
this was the last free
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election that the United
States would ever see.
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I was a creature of my culture
and I was very
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anxious about that.
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Roman Catholic Church\'s record
in regard to individual
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freedoms and religious liberty
is not without some very
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serious blemishes.
00:17:00.550 --> 00:17:02.865 align:middle line:90%
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You know, they finally got
around to forgiving Galileo
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last year after 350 years.
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The reason for our concern is
the fact that your church has
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stated that it has the privilege
and the right and
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the responsibility to direct its
members in various areas
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of life, including the
political realm.
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If my church attempted to
influence me in a way which
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was improper or which affected
adversely my responsibilities
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as a public servant sworn to
uphold the Constitution then I
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would reply to them that this
was an improper action on
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their part, that it was one
to which I could not to
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subscribe, that I was opposed to
it, and that it would be an
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unfortunate breach of an
interference with the American
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political system.
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I\'m confident that there would
be no such interference.
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We would be most happy
to have such a
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statement from the Vatican.
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And I remember--
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this is terrible-- when he was
assassinated, I sat watching
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the funeral procession with a
fellow graduate of Dallas
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Seminary who was fairly sure
he would rise out of the
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coffin and be the Antichrist
because he had a head wound
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and all those sorts of things.
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So we were very, very dubious
of a Catholic
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in the White House.
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So I want you to know that I\'m
grateful to you for inviting
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me tonight.
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I\'m sure that I have made
no converts to my
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church but I do hope--
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That was one of the lingering
few reasons why white
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evangelicals were so slow
in coming into politics.
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They were not at a position
where they
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could just take a stand.
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They had to find a religious,
a scriptural
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reason to take a stand.
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They couldn\'t have
just come out and
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said I\'m against Kennedy.
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They said, I\'m against the pope
who controls Kennedy.
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Black churches had long nurtured
the movement for
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civil rights.
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In 1960 black preachers
intensified
00:19:20.690 --> 00:19:24.239 align:middle line:90%
the call for action.
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This has been a passive
resistance movement.
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We have gathered today to pray
for the deliverance of our
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brethren in the South.
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I\'ve been in communication
with the tower.
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And the man on duty in the tower
tells me that there will
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be no such flight to freedom.
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And we intend to stand up until
justice comes our way.
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[MUSIC PLAYING]
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One of the hundreds of cities
divided by the civil rights
00:20:02.500 --> 00:20:04.940 align:middle line:84%
struggle was Lynchburg,
Virginia.
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Lynchburg was the home of Thomas
Rhode Baptist Church,
00:20:07.970 --> 00:20:10.570 align:middle line:84%
led by young pastor
Jerry Falwell.
00:20:10.570 --> 00:20:13.910 align:middle line:84%
Two prominent black churches
were led by Virgil Wood and
00:20:13.910 --> 00:20:15.040 align:middle line:90%
Haywood Robinson.
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My first hope about the
possibility of change taking
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place in this area took place
under the dome of a church and
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within a religious atmosphere.
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Lynchburg, where I was serving
as minister at the time, was
00:20:30.730 --> 00:20:34.590 align:middle line:84%
beginning to engage the issue
with the downtown merchants so
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that by December of 1960 we had
students, black and white
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from area universities,
who sat in.
00:20:44.800 --> 00:20:47.380 align:middle line:84%
And it was the casting
of the gauntlet.
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The summer of 1960, I had been
at a national student
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conference where there were
African American students from
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the deep south who had been
involved in sit ins in North
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Carolina and Alabama.
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And I really felt very, very
strongly that to think of
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myself as a Christian meant to
be involved in the struggle,
00:21:10.250 --> 00:21:14.230 align:middle line:84%
that it seemed like anything
else would be quite
00:21:14.230 --> 00:21:15.860 align:middle line:90%
irrelevant.
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I think I took Christianity far
more seriously than I was
00:21:18.790 --> 00:21:24.950 align:middle line:84%
supposed to, having grown up
in a kind of very genteel,
00:21:24.950 --> 00:21:30.485 align:middle line:84%
Gentile as well, southern
society and taking what I
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heard seriously.
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And we had decided at that time
that we would rather go
00:21:38.130 --> 00:21:45.180 align:middle line:84%
to jail in order to
let the world see
00:21:45.180 --> 00:21:48.170 align:middle line:90%
just what was happening.
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Had we not gone to jail then the
picture of Lynchburg never
00:21:55.610 --> 00:21:59.160 align:middle line:84%
would have been seen the
way that it really was.
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From the Afro American position,
from the Negro
00:22:01.790 --> 00:22:05.040 align:middle line:84%
position, the Civil Rights
Movement, the thrust for
00:22:05.040 --> 00:22:09.120 align:middle line:84%
freedom, has always been a
Christian movement, has always
00:22:09.120 --> 00:22:10.380 align:middle line:90%
been a Christian movement.
00:22:10.380 --> 00:22:16.260 align:middle line:84%
The NAACP during those days
boasted of the fact that it
00:22:16.260 --> 00:22:18.940 align:middle line:90%
was an arm of the church.
00:22:18.940 --> 00:22:23.630 align:middle line:84%
The black church was the
incubator of this new way of
00:22:23.630 --> 00:22:26.400 align:middle line:84%
carrying the gospel into the
streets, doing it in such a
00:22:26.400 --> 00:22:29.290 align:middle line:84%
way that when we got into the
streets, we were no longer
00:22:29.290 --> 00:22:32.410 align:middle line:84%
just a black church, we were
Catholic nuns, were Catholic
00:22:32.410 --> 00:22:37.430 align:middle line:84%
priests, we work Jewish
rabbis and so forth.
00:22:37.430 --> 00:22:40.800 align:middle line:84%
Jerry Falwell, pastor of Thomas
Road Baptist Church
00:22:40.800 --> 00:22:42.040 align:middle line:90%
preached otherwise.
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It is my desire in this sermon
to open the Bible and from
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God\'s word answer the question
does the Church have any
00:22:48.400 --> 00:22:51.810 align:middle line:84%
command from God to involve
itself in marches and
00:22:51.810 --> 00:22:55.450 align:middle line:84%
demonstrations in the name
of civil rights reform.
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At the outset of this message,
I must personally say that I
00:22:58.870 --> 00:23:02.470 align:middle line:84%
do question the sincerity of
some Civil Rights leaders such
00:23:02.470 --> 00:23:05.060 align:middle line:84%
as Dr. Martin Luther King Junior
and others who are
00:23:05.060 --> 00:23:08.050 align:middle line:84%
known to have left wing
associations.
00:23:08.050 --> 00:23:10.400 align:middle line:84%
It is very obvious that the
communists are taking
00:23:10.400 --> 00:23:13.620 align:middle line:84%
advantage of a tense situation
in our land and are exploiting
00:23:13.620 --> 00:23:17.290 align:middle line:84%
every instance to bring about
violence and bloodshed.
00:23:17.290 --> 00:23:19.910 align:middle line:84%
I believe we need to rededicate
ourselves to the
00:23:19.910 --> 00:23:23.270 align:middle line:84%
great task of turning this
world back to God.
00:23:23.270 --> 00:23:27.020 align:middle line:84%
The preaching of the gospel is
the only means by which this
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can be done.
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The issue on the ministers
and marches sermon
00:23:31.030 --> 00:23:33.260 align:middle line:90%
was political activism.
00:23:33.260 --> 00:23:35.622 align:middle line:90%
Dr. King was a Baptist pastor.
00:23:35.622 --> 00:23:38.020 align:middle line:90%
I\'m a Baptist pastor.
00:23:38.020 --> 00:23:41.380 align:middle line:84%
I was saying to pastors that
we should not be involved
00:23:41.380 --> 00:23:43.200 align:middle line:90%
politically.
00:23:43.200 --> 00:23:46.700 align:middle line:84%
If I had $1 for every time I
was told that or had that
00:23:46.700 --> 00:23:51.770 align:middle line:84%
thrown at our movement, that
Church is for saving souls not
00:23:51.770 --> 00:23:52.720 align:middle line:90%
for politics.
00:23:52.720 --> 00:23:55.290 align:middle line:84%
Stay out of politics and
stick to the gospel.
00:23:55.290 --> 00:23:59.540 align:middle line:84%
There were the questions as to
whether King really preached
00:23:59.540 --> 00:24:03.550 align:middle line:84%
the gospel or not or whether
he was preaching rather a
00:24:03.550 --> 00:24:05.670 align:middle line:90%
social and political message.
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This was in the early years.
00:24:08.070 --> 00:24:14.120 align:middle line:84%
And we, like the rest of the
evangelical movement, were
00:24:14.120 --> 00:24:17.700 align:middle line:90%
someone belated--
00:24:17.700 --> 00:24:24.530 align:middle line:84%
we were, to be sure, Johnny Come
Later with regard to the
00:24:24.530 --> 00:24:25.680 align:middle line:90%
race issue.
00:24:25.680 --> 00:24:32.720 align:middle line:84%
On deep matters of importance
such as racial prejudice, I
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think, for one to really purge
himself of that, he needs to
00:24:36.710 --> 00:24:38.450 align:middle line:90%
say I was wrong.
00:24:38.450 --> 00:24:40.380 align:middle line:90%
What I preached was incorrect.
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I learned it as a
young preacher.
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I followed by my teachers,
my mentors.
00:24:46.180 --> 00:24:47.920 align:middle line:90%
My mentors were wrong too.
00:24:47.920 --> 00:24:50.690 align:middle line:84%
It was just something that
we never thought would
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ever come to pass.
00:24:51.940 --> 00:24:54.320 align:middle line:90%
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It was just like getting
television and one advancement
00:24:57.640 --> 00:25:01.090 align:middle line:84%
from the other, just taking
a step forward.
00:25:01.090 --> 00:25:02.670 align:middle line:90%
And it was hard at first.
00:25:02.670 --> 00:25:05.750 align:middle line:84%
It was like pouring ice
water on a hot stove.
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Looking back it seems so
innocent and benign.
00:25:09.210 --> 00:25:12.280 align:middle line:84%
But at the time, I mean, it was
like declaring war on a
00:25:12.280 --> 00:25:13.010 align:middle line:90%
way of life.
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And there were people who said,
by golly, we\'re not
00:25:14.780 --> 00:25:16.160 align:middle line:90%
going to let this happen.
00:25:16.160 --> 00:25:19.890 align:middle line:84%
And you had the mobilization
against what we were doing by
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the top echelons of power
in the region.
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I think there was a concern
on the part of Christians,
00:25:27.720 --> 00:25:34.540 align:middle line:84%
regardless where they lived,
that we were losing a sense of
00:25:34.540 --> 00:25:38.160 align:middle line:84%
our values and standards and
principles in the United
00:25:38.160 --> 00:25:41.706 align:middle line:84%
States and that things
were changing.
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Lift off.
00:25:44.072 --> 00:25:45.322 align:middle line:90%
Lift off.
00:25:45.322 --> 00:25:49.002 align:middle line:90%
00:25:49.002 --> 00:25:50.974 align:middle line:90%
Everything is gold.
00:25:50.974 --> 00:25:55.904 align:middle line:84%
The take off of the Atlas blasts
off by 360,000 pounds
00:25:55.904 --> 00:25:58.862 align:middle line:84%
of thrust carries the Mercury
gracefully skyward.
00:25:58.862 --> 00:26:01.327 align:middle line:84%
Friendship seven, climbing
rapidly out of the earth\'s
00:26:01.327 --> 00:26:05.764 align:middle line:84%
atmosphere, exerts a pressure
of six times the force of
00:26:05.764 --> 00:26:07.736 align:middle line:90%
gravity on the astronaut.
00:26:07.736 --> 00:26:13.190 align:middle line:90%
[MUSIC PLAYING]
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Many years ago, the great
British explorer, George
00:26:17.010 --> 00:26:22.480 align:middle line:84%
Mallory, who was to die on Mount
Everest was asked why
00:26:22.480 --> 00:26:24.042 align:middle line:90%
did he want to climb it.
00:26:24.042 --> 00:26:27.850 align:middle line:84%
He said because it is there,
because space is there.
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And we\'re going to climb it.
00:26:30.890 --> 00:26:34.650 align:middle line:84%
Some would have us stay where
we are a little longer, to
00:26:34.650 --> 00:26:37.485 align:middle line:90%
rest, to wait.
00:26:37.485 --> 00:26:41.160 align:middle line:84%
But this country of the United
States was not built by those
00:26:41.160 --> 00:26:45.510 align:middle line:84%
who waited and rested and wished
to look behind them.
00:26:45.510 --> 00:26:49.720 align:middle line:84%
We choose to go to the moon in
this decade and do the other
00:26:49.720 --> 00:26:52.660 align:middle line:84%
thing not because they
are easy, but
00:26:52.660 --> 00:26:53.910 align:middle line:90%
because they are hard.
00:26:53.910 --> 00:27:02.380 align:middle line:90%
00:27:02.380 --> 00:27:05.050 align:middle line:84%
There was an infringement upon
the values and the standards
00:27:05.050 --> 00:27:09.920 align:middle line:84%
and the principles of
a Christian life.
00:27:09.920 --> 00:27:13.770 align:middle line:84%
Elvis Presley, when he came
along, certainly he became a
00:27:13.770 --> 00:27:17.790 align:middle line:84%
lightning rod for many who
felt like that is a good
00:27:17.790 --> 00:27:21.730 align:middle line:84%
illustration of the secularism
creeping into our lives
00:27:21.730 --> 00:27:25.680 align:middle line:84%
because he was exhibiting
something that was uncommon
00:27:25.680 --> 00:27:29.040 align:middle line:84%
and unacceptable for the
average, we\'ll say,
00:27:29.040 --> 00:27:32.205 align:middle line:90%
conservative Christian person.
00:27:32.205 --> 00:27:35.750 align:middle line:90%
00:27:35.750 --> 00:27:39.210 align:middle line:84%
Good evening from our CBS
newsroom in New York on this,
00:27:39.210 --> 00:27:40.330 align:middle line:90%
our first broadcast--
00:27:40.330 --> 00:27:42.990 align:middle line:84%
The mass media was getting
such influence.
00:27:42.990 --> 00:27:45.690 align:middle line:84%
I mean, network news
went on in 1962.
00:27:45.690 --> 00:27:48.530 align:middle line:84%
It was the same time the courts
began to take decisions
00:27:48.530 --> 00:27:50.770 align:middle line:84%
that for the first time-- and
render decisions with the
00:27:50.770 --> 00:27:56.060 align:middle line:84%
Abington decision in 1963, that
for the first time began
00:27:56.060 --> 00:27:59.056 align:middle line:84%
to restrict religious activity
in American life.
00:27:59.056 --> 00:28:52.640 align:middle line:90%
[MUSIC PLAYING]
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In your travels across the
country, have you noticed a
00:28:55.050 --> 00:28:58.320 align:middle line:84%
lot of resentment to the Supreme
Court decision banning
00:28:58.320 --> 00:28:59.720 align:middle line:84%
prayer and Bible reading
in the schools.
00:28:59.720 --> 00:29:00.330 align:middle line:90%
Oh, yes.
00:29:00.330 --> 00:29:02.040 align:middle line:84%
I think there\'s a tremendous
resentment.
00:29:02.040 --> 00:29:04.380 align:middle line:84%
And I think that if a vote
were taken in the United
00:29:04.380 --> 00:29:07.160 align:middle line:90%
States, it would go 80%.
00:29:07.160 --> 00:29:10.000 align:middle line:84%
It would be overwhelming to have
prayer and Bible reading
00:29:10.000 --> 00:29:10.870 align:middle line:90%
in the schools.
00:29:10.870 --> 00:29:13.870 align:middle line:84%
I think with certain safeguards
because all groups
00:29:13.870 --> 00:29:15.290 align:middle line:90%
must be protected.
00:29:15.290 --> 00:29:17.960 align:middle line:84%
But I think that our way of life
was built on the Judeo
00:29:17.960 --> 00:29:19.580 align:middle line:90%
Christian concept.
00:29:19.580 --> 00:29:23.650 align:middle line:84%
And I think that this is
a nation under God.
00:29:23.650 --> 00:29:25.910 align:middle line:84%
The Supreme Court has
made its judgement.
00:29:25.910 --> 00:29:27.354 align:middle line:84%
A good many people, obviously,
would disagree with it.
00:29:27.354 --> 00:29:29.624 align:middle line:90%
Others will agree with it.
00:29:29.624 --> 00:29:33.150 align:middle line:84%
But I think that it is important
for us, if we\'re
00:29:33.150 --> 00:29:35.400 align:middle line:84%
going to maintain our
constitutional principle, that
00:29:35.400 --> 00:29:40.860 align:middle line:84%
we support Supreme Court
decisions even when we may not
00:29:40.860 --> 00:29:41.370 align:middle line:90%
agree with them.
00:29:41.370 --> 00:29:44.667 align:middle line:84%
In addition, we have in this
case, a very easy remedy and
00:29:44.667 --> 00:29:47.409 align:middle line:90%
that is to pray ourselves.
00:29:47.409 --> 00:29:49.350 align:middle line:84%
We can pray a good deal
more at home.
00:29:49.350 --> 00:29:50.550 align:middle line:84%
We can attend our
churches with a
00:29:50.550 --> 00:29:52.630 align:middle line:90%
good deal more fidelity.
00:29:52.630 --> 00:29:56.475 align:middle line:84%
And we can make the true meaning
of prayer much more
00:29:56.475 --> 00:29:57.900 align:middle line:84%
important in the lives of
all of our children.
00:29:57.900 --> 00:29:59.070 align:middle line:84%
That power is very
much open to us.
00:29:59.070 --> 00:30:03.900 align:middle line:84%
Ever since probably 1962 when
the Supreme Court decision was
00:30:03.900 --> 00:30:07.180 align:middle line:84%
passed that outlawed prayer from
the school, and then in
00:30:07.180 --> 00:30:11.670 align:middle line:84%
\'63 they kicked the Bible out
of the schools, and it just
00:30:11.670 --> 00:30:14.530 align:middle line:84%
seemed that there was one
relentless attack after
00:30:14.530 --> 00:30:18.920 align:middle line:84%
another of the ACLU before the
Supreme Court to secularise
00:30:18.920 --> 00:30:19.530 align:middle line:90%
our country.
00:30:19.530 --> 00:30:24.890 align:middle line:84%
That really touched my button
because I felt we were
00:30:24.890 --> 00:30:27.270 align:middle line:90%
stifling free speech.
00:30:27.270 --> 00:30:29.980 align:middle line:84%
And if the government, contrary
to the wishes of the
00:30:29.980 --> 00:30:35.730 align:middle line:84%
founders who wanted neutrality
as a policy of the government
00:30:35.730 --> 00:30:37.390 align:middle line:90%
toward religion--
00:30:37.390 --> 00:30:39.950 align:middle line:84%
in fact, the government was
becoming hostile, in my
00:30:39.950 --> 00:30:42.650 align:middle line:90%
opinion, towards religion.
00:30:42.650 --> 00:30:46.470 align:middle line:84%
This court decision drives
another nail in the coffin
00:30:46.470 --> 00:30:51.090 align:middle line:84%
being prepared for a free and
God fearing America by the
00:30:51.090 --> 00:30:53.520 align:middle line:84%
forces of secularism
and socialism.
00:30:53.520 --> 00:30:55.150 align:middle line:84%
I don\'t think the Supreme
Court will ever render a
00:30:55.150 --> 00:30:57.400 align:middle line:84%
decision that is as tragic
as this one.
00:30:57.400 --> 00:31:00.650 align:middle line:90%
00:31:00.650 --> 00:31:06.460 align:middle line:84%
Ashamed that a Supreme Court
would make a ruling, ashamed
00:31:06.460 --> 00:31:10.758 align:middle line:84%
that they would take prayer
out of school.
00:31:10.758 --> 00:31:16.680 align:middle line:84%
I\'m ashamed that that took
place in America.
00:31:16.680 --> 00:31:22.360 align:middle line:84%
I was raised in America where
every Catholic started the day
00:31:22.360 --> 00:31:25.100 align:middle line:90%
with prayer and ritual.
00:31:25.100 --> 00:31:27.900 align:middle line:84%
I was in public schools
where they started
00:31:27.900 --> 00:31:30.100 align:middle line:90%
the day with prayer.
00:31:30.100 --> 00:31:32.820 align:middle line:84%
And all of a sudden, they\'re
taking God out of it.
00:31:32.820 --> 00:31:33.600 align:middle line:90%
That\'s the way I felt.
00:31:33.600 --> 00:31:35.370 align:middle line:84%
They were taking God
away from as.
00:31:35.370 --> 00:31:36.800 align:middle line:90%
They were at war with God.
00:31:36.800 --> 00:31:38.430 align:middle line:90%
And I\'m going to defend God.
00:31:38.430 --> 00:31:40.635 align:middle line:84%
And they\'re not going to take
prayer and Bible reading out
00:31:40.635 --> 00:31:40.920 align:middle line:90%
of the schools.
00:31:40.920 --> 00:31:41.900 align:middle line:90%
I\'m going to do something.
00:31:41.900 --> 00:31:44.250 align:middle line:90%
This was about 1962.
00:31:44.250 --> 00:31:47.890 align:middle line:84%
And we were leaving, having had
this ice cream and heading
00:31:47.890 --> 00:31:48.660 align:middle line:90%
out to the car.
00:31:48.660 --> 00:31:52.560 align:middle line:84%
And we saw this newspaper
machine there.
00:31:52.560 --> 00:31:55.040 align:middle line:84%
And it said the headlines that
the Supreme Court had ruled
00:31:55.040 --> 00:31:57.150 align:middle line:84%
against prayer and
Bible reading.
00:31:57.150 --> 00:31:59.010 align:middle line:84%
And my father, I remember,
being very
00:31:59.010 --> 00:32:02.090 align:middle line:90%
dramatically upset by this.
00:32:02.090 --> 00:32:05.040 align:middle line:84%
And we got into the car and all
the way home as we drove,
00:32:05.040 --> 00:32:08.140 align:middle line:84%
he was talking about how this
was really the beginning of
00:32:08.140 --> 00:32:11.360 align:middle line:84%
the end for America, that the
country had turned its back on
00:32:11.360 --> 00:32:15.470 align:middle line:84%
God now and that any country
that did that couldn\'t stand.
00:32:15.470 --> 00:32:17.820 align:middle line:84%
And as I sat there in the
backseat listening to him--
00:32:17.820 --> 00:32:20.160 align:middle line:84%
and he wasn\'t really aware even
probably that I was even
00:32:20.160 --> 00:32:21.490 align:middle line:84%
paying attention to what
he was saying.
00:32:21.490 --> 00:32:22.860 align:middle line:90%
He was talking to my mother.
00:32:22.860 --> 00:32:27.450 align:middle line:84%
But it made a profound
impression on me and really
00:32:27.450 --> 00:32:29.420 align:middle line:84%
kind of put the fear
of the Lord in me.
00:32:29.420 --> 00:32:33.340 align:middle line:84%
I felt like this really was a
tragic event and really still
00:32:33.340 --> 00:32:35.390 align:middle line:90%
do looking back on it.
00:32:35.390 --> 00:32:40.150 align:middle line:84%
And by the time we got back to
the hotel, I went to my room
00:32:40.150 --> 00:32:41.870 align:middle line:84%
and really dissolved
into tears.
00:32:41.870 --> 00:32:43.200 align:middle line:84%
And my mother came
and found me.
00:32:43.200 --> 00:32:46.050 align:middle line:84%
And she took me to my father\'s
office there in the hotel.
00:32:46.050 --> 00:32:48.672 align:middle line:84%
And he opened up the Bible with
me and that\'s the day I
00:32:48.672 --> 00:32:49.400 align:middle line:90%
became a Christian.
00:32:49.400 --> 00:32:51.550 align:middle line:84%
I accepted Christ as my
personal saviour.
00:32:51.550 --> 00:33:15.040 align:middle line:90%
[MUSIC PLAYING]
00:33:15.040 --> 00:33:18.100 align:middle line:84%
I\'m going to ask that we bow
our heads in prayer.
00:33:18.100 --> 00:33:20.650 align:middle line:90%
Every head bowed.
00:33:20.650 --> 00:33:23.970 align:middle line:84%
In an atmosphere of social
change they saw as openly
00:33:23.970 --> 00:33:27.250 align:middle line:84%
hostile to religion,
evangelicals began to question
00:33:27.250 --> 00:33:30.000 align:middle line:84%
their exclusive focus on
preaching the gospel.
00:33:30.000 --> 00:33:32.740 align:middle line:84%
Political conservatives
made a direct appeal.
00:33:32.740 --> 00:33:35.420 align:middle line:84%
Is moral responsibility
out of style?
00:33:35.420 --> 00:33:38.790 align:middle line:84%
Our papers and our newsreels
and, yes, our own observations
00:33:38.790 --> 00:33:42.670 align:middle line:84%
tell us that immorality
surrounds us as never before.
00:33:42.670 --> 00:33:47.520 align:middle line:84%
The only time in my life that I
ever got behind a political
00:33:47.520 --> 00:33:49.580 align:middle line:90%
candidate running for president
00:33:49.580 --> 00:33:51.290 align:middle line:90%
was with Barry Goldwater.
00:33:51.290 --> 00:33:54.220 align:middle line:84%
I say it is time to put
conscience back in government.
00:33:54.220 --> 00:33:57.890 align:middle line:84%
When I first got started in
politics, in the upsurge for
00:33:57.890 --> 00:34:01.940 align:middle line:84%
Goldwater in the late \'50s and
early \'60s, the traditional
00:34:01.940 --> 00:34:06.550 align:middle line:84%
values activists who used
to be traditional values
00:34:06.550 --> 00:34:10.449 align:middle line:84%
believers but were not activists
before, made the
00:34:10.449 --> 00:34:13.510 align:middle line:84%
determination as to which
party they were going to
00:34:13.510 --> 00:34:14.880 align:middle line:90%
affiliate with.
00:34:14.880 --> 00:34:17.670 align:middle line:84%
And it was clear that the
Republican Party was the party
00:34:17.670 --> 00:34:19.159 align:middle line:84%
that was most hospitable
to them.
00:34:19.159 --> 00:34:21.320 align:middle line:84%
And there were people like me
out there working to recruit
00:34:21.320 --> 00:34:22.260 align:middle line:90%
them and many others.
00:34:22.260 --> 00:34:25.179 align:middle line:84%
Barry Goldwater has
faith in us.
00:34:25.179 --> 00:34:28.219 align:middle line:84%
He has faith that you and I
have the ability and the
00:34:28.219 --> 00:34:32.960 align:middle line:84%
dignity and the right to
make our own decisions.
00:34:32.960 --> 00:34:35.600 align:middle line:84%
I have served for 10 years in
the Senate of the United
00:34:35.600 --> 00:34:38.560 align:middle line:84%
States with that great American
Barry Goldwater.
00:34:38.560 --> 00:34:40.100 align:middle line:90%
And I know what he stands for.
00:34:40.100 --> 00:34:41.920 align:middle line:84%
I know what his principles
are.
00:34:41.920 --> 00:34:44.568 align:middle line:84%
And that is one reason
I am supporting him.
00:34:44.568 --> 00:34:51.130 align:middle line:90%
[APPLAUSE]
00:34:51.130 --> 00:34:54.250 align:middle line:90%
He was a conservative.
00:34:54.250 --> 00:34:55.610 align:middle line:90%
Goldwater was a conservative.
00:34:55.610 --> 00:34:57.470 align:middle line:90%
He was authentic.
00:34:57.470 --> 00:35:01.990 align:middle line:84%
He didn\'t pussy foot around
or muddle up the issues.
00:35:01.990 --> 00:35:05.910 align:middle line:84%
Why do we see wave after
wave of crime in our
00:35:05.910 --> 00:35:08.100 align:middle line:90%
streets and in our homes?
00:35:08.100 --> 00:35:12.810 align:middle line:84%
Why do we see riot and disorder
in our cities, a
00:35:12.810 --> 00:35:17.310 align:middle line:84%
breakdown of the morals of our
young people, an increasing
00:35:17.310 --> 00:35:20.570 align:middle line:90%
flood of obscene literature?
00:35:20.570 --> 00:35:25.650 align:middle line:84%
Something basic, something
dangerous is eating away at
00:35:25.650 --> 00:35:29.920 align:middle line:84%
the morality, the dignity, and
respect of our citizens.
00:35:29.920 --> 00:35:34.960 align:middle line:84%
My fellow Americans, is this
the time in our nation\'s
00:35:34.960 --> 00:35:38.780 align:middle line:84%
history for our federal
government to ban Almighty God
00:35:38.780 --> 00:35:40.270 align:middle line:90%
from our school rooms?
00:35:40.270 --> 00:35:45.490 align:middle line:84%
By the time of 1964, Goldwater
was representative of what is
00:35:45.490 --> 00:35:49.970 align:middle line:84%
now termed the conservative
philosophy.
00:35:49.970 --> 00:35:51.970 align:middle line:84%
Goldwater was conservative
on economics.
00:35:51.970 --> 00:35:56.130 align:middle line:84%
Goldwater was conservative on
the traditional values.
00:35:56.130 --> 00:35:58.850 align:middle line:84%
And many, many people
got active.
00:35:58.850 --> 00:36:00.406 align:middle line:84%
Senator Barry Goldwater,
the next president.
00:36:00.406 --> 00:36:03.620 align:middle line:90%
00:36:03.620 --> 00:36:07.390 align:middle line:84%
1964 was the year when
grassroots, conservative
00:36:07.390 --> 00:36:11.420 align:middle line:84%
Republicans took control of
the Republican Party.
00:36:11.420 --> 00:36:15.270 align:middle line:84%
And they\'ve had it more
or less ever since.
00:36:15.270 --> 00:36:22.990 align:middle line:90%
00:36:22.990 --> 00:36:26.750 align:middle line:84%
And so as we approached 1964,
I realized that most of the
00:36:26.750 --> 00:36:30.280 align:middle line:84%
delegates had not been to
conventions before and it was
00:36:30.280 --> 00:36:33.870 align:middle line:84%
clear that Barry Goldwater was
the grassroots choice.
00:36:33.870 --> 00:36:39.540 align:middle line:84%
A decade ago a great secretary
of State, John--
00:36:39.540 --> 00:36:43.480 align:middle line:84%
Barry Goldwater had the votes
before I ever hit the platform
00:36:43.480 --> 00:36:46.930 align:middle line:84%
as the temporary chairman
and the keynoter.
00:36:46.930 --> 00:36:49.920 align:middle line:90%
And everybody knew that.
00:36:49.920 --> 00:36:54.136 align:middle line:84%
So it seemed to me I had to
add another dimension.
00:36:54.136 --> 00:37:02.130 align:middle line:84%
Our faith challenges any who
would destroy freedom, whether
00:37:02.130 --> 00:37:06.010 align:middle line:84%
they wrap themselves in
a false scope cloak of
00:37:06.010 --> 00:37:12.130 align:middle line:84%
patriotism or unequally false
cloak of religion.
00:37:12.130 --> 00:37:16.460 align:middle line:84%
I remember the line that gave me
a distinction that no other
00:37:16.460 --> 00:37:19.140 align:middle line:84%
keynoter in history
has ever had.
00:37:19.140 --> 00:37:22.020 align:middle line:84%
I was booed by my
own convention.
00:37:22.020 --> 00:37:25.800 align:middle line:84%
And I could almost precisely
recite the line that brought
00:37:25.800 --> 00:37:30.510 align:middle line:84%
forth the negative reaction
from the convention.
00:37:30.510 --> 00:37:35.200 align:middle line:84%
I warn the convention that we
should beware of extremists
00:37:35.200 --> 00:37:38.430 align:middle line:84%
from the left or from the right
who spew forth their
00:37:38.430 --> 00:37:44.080 align:middle line:84%
venom of hate such as the
Communist Party, Ku Klux Klan,
00:37:44.080 --> 00:37:46.390 align:middle line:90%
and the John Birch Society.
00:37:46.390 --> 00:37:50.420 align:middle line:84%
--the Communist Party,
the Ku Klux Klan, and
00:37:50.420 --> 00:37:51.980 align:middle line:90%
the John Birch Society.
00:37:51.980 --> 00:37:55.703 align:middle line:90%
[AUDIENCE BOOS]
00:37:55.703 --> 00:37:56.182 align:middle line:90%
Boo.
00:37:56.182 --> 00:37:58.577 align:middle line:84%
That really responded
very strongly.
00:37:58.577 --> 00:38:03.860 align:middle line:90%
[AUDIENCE BOOS]
00:38:03.860 --> 00:38:05.692 align:middle line:84%
A third of the delegates
were members of
00:38:05.692 --> 00:38:07.006 align:middle line:90%
the John Birch Society.
00:38:07.006 --> 00:38:13.200 align:middle line:90%
00:38:13.200 --> 00:38:15.970 align:middle line:84%
But I still felt that it was
a message that we had to
00:38:15.970 --> 00:38:20.610 align:middle line:84%
communicate not to the people in
that great auditorium, but
00:38:20.610 --> 00:38:23.636 align:middle line:84%
it was to the public
out there.
00:38:23.636 --> 00:38:27.536 align:middle line:84%
Goldwater 64, Hot Water
65, Bread and Water
00:38:27.536 --> 00:38:29.424 align:middle line:90%
66, that one said.
00:38:29.424 --> 00:38:33.129 align:middle line:84%
These people, obviously, are not
as favorably inclined to
00:38:33.129 --> 00:38:39.810 align:middle line:84%
the front runner as the people
inside this hall are.
00:38:39.810 --> 00:38:46.010 align:middle line:84%
I would remind you that
extremism in the defense of
00:38:46.010 --> 00:38:48.700 align:middle line:90%
liberty is no vice.
00:38:48.700 --> 00:38:58.948 align:middle line:90%
[APPLAUSE]
00:38:58.948 --> 00:38:59.924 align:middle line:90%
Thank you.
00:38:59.924 --> 00:39:01.174 align:middle line:90%
Thank you.
00:39:01.174 --> 00:39:04.820 align:middle line:90%
00:39:04.820 --> 00:39:09.500 align:middle line:84%
And let me remind you also that
moderation in the pursuit
00:39:09.500 --> 00:39:11.586 align:middle line:90%
of justice is no virtue.
00:39:11.586 --> 00:39:16.900 align:middle line:90%
00:39:16.900 --> 00:39:19.450 align:middle line:84%
It looks as though President
Johnson\'s absolute margin is
00:39:19.450 --> 00:39:20.800 align:middle line:90%
going to be a record.
00:39:20.800 --> 00:39:24.080 align:middle line:84%
However, he will not win the
record of electoral votes that
00:39:24.080 --> 00:39:27.030 align:middle line:90%
Roosevelt won in 1936.
00:39:27.030 --> 00:39:30.180 align:middle line:84%
At that time, Landon, whom he
defeated, got but eight
00:39:30.180 --> 00:39:30.980 align:middle line:90%
electoral votes.
00:39:30.980 --> 00:39:33.280 align:middle line:90%
Goldwater already has 37.
00:39:33.280 --> 00:39:36.430 align:middle line:84%
ABC\'S coverage of the national
elections will continue in
00:39:36.430 --> 00:39:38.750 align:middle line:90%
just a moment.
00:39:38.750 --> 00:39:41.280 align:middle line:84%
A lot of people don\'t understand
that in politics
00:39:41.280 --> 00:39:43.800 align:middle line:90%
sometimes you win by losing.
00:39:43.800 --> 00:39:46.430 align:middle line:90%
00:39:46.430 --> 00:39:51.260 align:middle line:84%
You lose the battle but you
set up the potential for
00:39:51.260 --> 00:39:52.310 align:middle line:90%
future winning.
00:39:52.310 --> 00:39:55.800 align:middle line:84%
And that\'s how I looked at
the Goldwater campaign.
00:39:55.800 --> 00:39:59.290 align:middle line:84%
The Goldwater campaign brought a
lot of people into politics.
00:39:59.290 --> 00:40:02.500 align:middle line:90%
We developed expertise.
00:40:02.500 --> 00:40:07.540 align:middle line:84%
And the religious leaders who
were deeply committed to these
00:40:07.540 --> 00:40:13.830 align:middle line:84%
values of traditional morality
began to think, hey, if we\'re
00:40:13.830 --> 00:40:16.200 align:middle line:84%
not careful, this country is
going to be changed in a way
00:40:16.200 --> 00:40:17.690 align:middle line:90%
that we don\'t like at all.
00:40:17.690 --> 00:40:24.310 align:middle line:84%
Speaking for myself, I never
saw the \'60s coming because
00:40:24.310 --> 00:40:30.390 align:middle line:84%
the early \'60s were parties
and the four freshman and
00:40:30.390 --> 00:40:33.580 align:middle line:90%
convertibles and picnics.
00:40:33.580 --> 00:40:37.230 align:middle line:90%
And everything was nice.
00:40:37.230 --> 00:40:38.590 align:middle line:90%
And then slam bam.
00:40:38.590 --> 00:40:47.390 align:middle line:90%
00:40:47.390 --> 00:40:52.810 align:middle line:84%
And then the incredible turning
toward immorality.
00:40:52.810 --> 00:40:55.480 align:middle line:84%
And they called it
the new morality.
00:40:55.480 --> 00:40:57.840 align:middle line:84%
But everybody knew it
was immorality.
00:40:57.840 --> 00:41:02.390 align:middle line:84%
It just had a new
moniker on it.
00:41:02.390 --> 00:41:05.350 align:middle line:84%
The parents don\'t want us to
have sexual relationships and
00:41:05.350 --> 00:41:05.900 align:middle line:90%
everything.
00:41:05.900 --> 00:41:09.110 align:middle line:84%
But yet they\'ll go out to
people, or go out and invent
00:41:09.110 --> 00:41:11.280 align:middle line:84%
things like the birth control
pill and everything.
00:41:11.280 --> 00:41:14.400 align:middle line:84%
And then when we take it,
they blame us for it.
00:41:14.400 --> 00:41:15.310 align:middle line:90%
But they will go an invent it.
00:41:15.310 --> 00:41:17.020 align:middle line:84%
And that\'s not our fault if
they\'re going to keep
00:41:17.020 --> 00:41:18.350 align:middle line:90%
inventing things.
00:41:18.350 --> 00:41:21.570 align:middle line:84%
The pill really has
revolutionized in a social as
00:41:21.570 --> 00:41:24.670 align:middle line:84%
well as medical way
the birth control
00:41:24.670 --> 00:41:27.180 align:middle line:90%
picture in the last decade.
00:41:27.180 --> 00:41:29.450 align:middle line:84%
The sexual revolution is
a part of a much larger
00:41:29.450 --> 00:41:33.630 align:middle line:84%
revolution in which we are re
examining all of the ways that
00:41:33.630 --> 00:41:38.170 align:middle line:84%
man relates to man, racially,
religiously, internationally,
00:41:38.170 --> 00:41:41.950 align:middle line:84%
nationally between employers
and employees, you name it.
00:41:41.950 --> 00:41:44.650 align:middle line:84%
A new frontier in the sexual
revolution has opened up here
00:41:44.650 --> 00:41:47.480 align:middle line:84%
in Orange County, California,
home of Disneyland and Knott\'s
00:41:47.480 --> 00:41:48.180 align:middle line:90%
Berry Farm.
00:41:48.180 --> 00:41:50.870 align:middle line:84%
The issue dividing the city of
Anaheim is the introduction of
00:41:50.870 --> 00:41:53.400 align:middle line:84%
sex education based on a
curriculum encouraged by the
00:41:53.400 --> 00:41:56.880 align:middle line:84%
Sex Information and Education
Council of the US.
00:41:56.880 --> 00:42:01.900 align:middle line:84%
The program started moving
in about 1968.
00:42:01.900 --> 00:42:04.250 align:middle line:84%
Like so many people, I
said what the hell\'s
00:42:04.250 --> 00:42:06.160 align:middle line:90%
wrong with sex education?
00:42:06.160 --> 00:42:10.370 align:middle line:84%
That was the way
I looked at it.
00:42:10.370 --> 00:42:14.980 align:middle line:84%
It was to be a four and a half
week program taught at each
00:42:14.980 --> 00:42:18.140 align:middle line:84%
grade level, seven through nine,
which are the grades
00:42:18.140 --> 00:42:21.260 align:middle line:84%
that were in the Anaheim
high school district.
00:42:21.260 --> 00:42:25.480 align:middle line:84%
I think a major mission was to
show how important human
00:42:25.480 --> 00:42:29.670 align:middle line:84%
sexuality was in human
development, in individual
00:42:29.670 --> 00:42:35.220 align:middle line:84%
development, and how important
it was for society.
00:42:35.220 --> 00:42:42.380 align:middle line:84%
SIECUS now had to come in,
I believe, around 1963.
00:42:42.380 --> 00:42:46.810 align:middle line:84%
And now they were well organized
and ready to go out
00:42:46.810 --> 00:42:48.950 align:middle line:90%
and test the waters.
00:42:48.950 --> 00:42:52.530 align:middle line:84%
And Anaheim was a test run, a
pilot program for the whole
00:42:52.530 --> 00:42:58.300 align:middle line:84%
country, which focused all of
the country on Anaheim.
00:42:58.300 --> 00:43:02.660 align:middle line:84%
My twin sons were
having dinner.
00:43:02.660 --> 00:43:07.150 align:middle line:84%
And my son, Rick, said mom, by
the way, would you please
00:43:07.150 --> 00:43:10.570 align:middle line:84%
write a note and get
me out of sex?
00:43:10.570 --> 00:43:15.748 align:middle line:84%
And his twin brother, Rob,
said, and one for me too.
00:43:15.748 --> 00:43:17.670 align:middle line:90%
I said what do you mean?
00:43:17.670 --> 00:43:21.000 align:middle line:84%
I had no idea what they
were talking about.
00:43:21.000 --> 00:43:23.290 align:middle line:84%
Well, I questioned
them all evening.
00:43:23.290 --> 00:43:25.910 align:middle line:84%
And I said, what
do they teach?
00:43:25.910 --> 00:43:29.130 align:middle line:84%
Ask me any question that
comes to your mind.
00:43:29.130 --> 00:43:30.610 align:middle line:90%
What questions about what?
00:43:30.610 --> 00:43:32.540 align:middle line:84%
What are we going
to talk about?
00:43:32.540 --> 00:43:36.050 align:middle line:90%
Growth and development.
00:43:36.050 --> 00:43:39.250 align:middle line:84%
I got a copy of their
curriculum, which I bought.
00:43:39.250 --> 00:43:41.630 align:middle line:90%
I paid for it.
00:43:41.630 --> 00:43:46.980 align:middle line:84%
And so I spent every afternoon
at the district office
00:43:46.980 --> 00:43:49.880 align:middle line:84%
reviewing films and
getting books
00:43:49.880 --> 00:43:51.720 align:middle line:90%
right out of the classroom.
00:43:51.720 --> 00:43:54.380 align:middle line:84%
Then they organized into
kind of a group.
00:43:54.380 --> 00:44:00.910 align:middle line:84%
It started with what seemed to
be the John Birch people.
00:44:00.910 --> 00:44:05.160 align:middle line:84%
And then James Townson
was involved.
00:44:05.160 --> 00:44:08.160 align:middle line:84%
I\'d like to say they
captured me.
00:44:08.160 --> 00:44:12.010 align:middle line:84%
And they hauled me into a
meeting up here in Anaheim.
00:44:12.010 --> 00:44:15.540 align:middle line:84%
And honest to God, it went
on for six hours.
00:44:15.540 --> 00:44:17.220 align:middle line:90%
They had made excerpts.
00:44:17.220 --> 00:44:20.110 align:middle line:84%
And when I left there six
hours later, I actually
00:44:20.110 --> 00:44:21.700 align:middle line:90%
staggered out of the house.
00:44:21.700 --> 00:44:24.390 align:middle line:84%
--consists of several folds
of skin or tissue--
00:44:24.390 --> 00:44:27.450 align:middle line:84%
And I couldn\'t believe
what was being
00:44:27.450 --> 00:44:29.510 align:middle line:90%
taught in this program.
00:44:29.510 --> 00:44:31.790 align:middle line:84%
--and the tail that wiggles and
causes the cell to move.
00:44:31.790 --> 00:44:34.010 align:middle line:84%
There wasn\'t anything
that was verboten.
00:44:34.010 --> 00:44:37.670 align:middle line:84%
They begin to be interested in
members of the other sex.
00:44:37.670 --> 00:44:41.600 align:middle line:84%
The classes started
to going nuts.
00:44:41.600 --> 00:44:45.860 align:middle line:84%
There was even a class where
one teacher engaged in
00:44:45.860 --> 00:44:50.430 align:middle line:84%
intercourse, back in New York
or somewhere back there, for
00:44:50.430 --> 00:44:53.070 align:middle line:90%
the benefit of her students.
00:44:53.070 --> 00:44:56.920 align:middle line:84%
I don\'t see how anybody in their
right mind would ever
00:44:56.920 --> 00:45:02.440 align:middle line:84%
even consider an adult would
do that to children.
00:45:02.440 --> 00:45:04.970 align:middle line:84%
And I want to tell you this,
this may get clipped out of
00:45:04.970 --> 00:45:06.370 align:middle line:90%
this interview.
00:45:06.370 --> 00:45:09.860 align:middle line:84%
But there was more homosexuals
made in that sex education
00:45:09.860 --> 00:45:13.580 align:middle line:84%
classroom than would have ever
been here today if they hadn\'t
00:45:13.580 --> 00:45:16.510 align:middle line:84%
of told them, if you haven\'t
tried it, don\'t knock it.
00:45:16.510 --> 00:45:19.130 align:middle line:84%
It\'s just an alternate
lifestyle.
00:45:19.130 --> 00:45:22.270 align:middle line:84%
And they tried it and they
didn\'t knock it.
00:45:22.270 --> 00:45:28.240 align:middle line:84%
It\'s untrammeled, free sex
that they\'re afraid of.
00:45:28.240 --> 00:45:30.620 align:middle line:84%
And that\'s what they
thought we were
00:45:30.620 --> 00:45:32.650 align:middle line:90%
teaching with sex education.
00:45:32.650 --> 00:45:35.350 align:middle line:84%
We were trying to teach
responsible sexuality.
00:45:35.350 --> 00:45:38.090 align:middle line:84%
And they thought we were
really teaching
00:45:38.090 --> 00:45:39.810 align:middle line:90%
irresponsible sex.
00:45:39.810 --> 00:45:41.910 align:middle line:90%
I was angry.
00:45:41.910 --> 00:45:47.150 align:middle line:84%
I was angry because there was
no love attachment anywhere
00:45:47.150 --> 00:45:55.760 align:middle line:84%
mentioned, no closeness, no
love, no marriage, nothing
00:45:55.760 --> 00:45:59.120 align:middle line:90%
that depicted my values.
00:45:59.120 --> 00:46:02.980 align:middle line:84%
And I resented it, very frankly,
that they took from
00:46:02.980 --> 00:46:07.940 align:middle line:84%
my boys and my daughter that
beautiful wedding night that
00:46:07.940 --> 00:46:09.990 align:middle line:90%
their mother experienced.
00:46:09.990 --> 00:46:14.100 align:middle line:84%
I feel they have kicked God
out of our public schools.
00:46:14.100 --> 00:46:15.560 align:middle line:90%
God is love.
00:46:15.560 --> 00:46:21.890 align:middle line:84%
And they\'re now putting human
love on the level of nothing
00:46:21.890 --> 00:46:24.450 align:middle line:84%
but physical, biological
animal love.
00:46:24.450 --> 00:46:25.860 align:middle line:84%
Physically, maybe it\'s
the same thing.
00:46:25.860 --> 00:46:27.100 align:middle line:90%
But emotionally we\'re different
00:46:27.100 --> 00:46:27.980 align:middle line:90%
because we have a soul.
00:46:27.980 --> 00:46:28.720 align:middle line:90%
And we\'re different.
00:46:28.720 --> 00:46:29.610 align:middle line:90%
They\'re just different.
00:46:29.610 --> 00:46:30.910 align:middle line:90%
And I\'m not an animal.
00:46:30.910 --> 00:46:32.630 align:middle line:84%
And they\'re not going to teach
my children to respect
00:46:32.630 --> 00:46:35.260 align:middle line:84%
themselves in the same way an
animal respect themselves.
00:46:35.260 --> 00:46:36.020 align:middle line:90%
You have to have self respect.
00:46:36.020 --> 00:46:37.275 align:middle line:90%
And they\'re not teaching that.
00:46:37.275 --> 00:46:43.020 align:middle line:84%
Our students were learning how
to believe in themselves, to
00:46:43.020 --> 00:46:48.580 align:middle line:84%
have self respect, self esteem,
and how to work with
00:46:48.580 --> 00:46:52.310 align:middle line:84%
other people in the rest
of our society.
00:46:52.310 --> 00:46:55.940 align:middle line:84%
We were over here in left field,
a small group of people
00:46:55.940 --> 00:46:59.550 align:middle line:84%
in Anaheim against the whole
city it appeared.
00:46:59.550 --> 00:47:03.530 align:middle line:84%
And immediately they started
issuing statements against us.
00:47:03.530 --> 00:47:09.080 align:middle line:84%
We were a group of wild eyed,
extremist, rabble rousing,
00:47:09.080 --> 00:47:16.110 align:middle line:84%
bible thumping, right wing,
kooks and nuts.
00:47:16.110 --> 00:47:21.670 align:middle line:84%
So I said OK, if these people
are going to play this game
00:47:21.670 --> 00:47:25.220 align:middle line:84%
and they\'re going to support
this raunchy program, I said
00:47:25.220 --> 00:47:27.930 align:middle line:84%
let\'s give them a little
publicity.
00:47:27.930 --> 00:47:32.730 align:middle line:84%
We would go to the churches on
Sunday and then outside the
00:47:32.730 --> 00:47:35.420 align:middle line:84%
door where the people came out,
we\'d put a stack of these
00:47:35.420 --> 00:47:38.310 align:middle line:90%
fliers, says free take one.
00:47:38.310 --> 00:47:42.500 align:middle line:84%
I invited them to attend the
next school board meeting,
00:47:42.500 --> 00:47:45.860 align:middle line:84%
that I was going to place myself
on the agenda and I was
00:47:45.860 --> 00:47:49.510 align:middle line:84%
going to bring this up
to the school board.
00:47:49.510 --> 00:47:56.410 align:middle line:84%
And I had no idea if there would
be ten people there, 20
00:47:56.410 --> 00:47:57.280 align:middle line:90%
people, 100.
00:47:57.280 --> 00:47:59.810 align:middle line:90%
I had no idea at all.
00:47:59.810 --> 00:48:03.730 align:middle line:84%
It\'s SRO for S-E-X this
afternoon, Standing Room Only
00:48:03.730 --> 00:48:06.030 align:middle line:90%
for people interested in sex.
00:48:06.030 --> 00:48:09.550 align:middle line:84%
About 500 people have jammed
inside this hearing room here
00:48:09.550 --> 00:48:11.410 align:middle line:84%
to make their please about
sex education.
00:48:11.410 --> 00:48:13.440 align:middle line:84%
What we did, we got smart
because they were only giving
00:48:13.440 --> 00:48:15.450 align:middle line:90%
us like two minutes.
00:48:15.450 --> 00:48:18.160 align:middle line:84%
But there would be about
six or seven of us
00:48:18.160 --> 00:48:19.900 align:middle line:90%
getting on the agenda.
00:48:19.900 --> 00:48:22.290 align:middle line:84%
And when they\'d stop us, we\'d
just hand it to the next
00:48:22.290 --> 00:48:24.520 align:middle line:84%
person and we got our
point across.
00:48:24.520 --> 00:48:27.460 align:middle line:84%
This curriculum developed by our
sex education teachers for
00:48:27.460 --> 00:48:29.970 align:middle line:84%
kindergarten, first grade
reads as follows.
00:48:29.970 --> 00:48:32.390 align:middle line:84%
Section B suggested activities,
write stories
00:48:32.390 --> 00:48:33.570 align:middle line:90%
about parents.
00:48:33.570 --> 00:48:36.150 align:middle line:84%
Lesson number five, birth
and care of off spring.
00:48:36.150 --> 00:48:38.930 align:middle line:84%
Teachable materials learn
how hamsters are born.
00:48:38.930 --> 00:48:41.150 align:middle line:84%
Learn how mother hamsters
care for babies.
00:48:41.150 --> 00:48:43.800 align:middle line:84%
Compare human relations with
those of the hamsters.
00:48:43.800 --> 00:48:46.750 align:middle line:84%
The group grew bigger
and they began
00:48:46.750 --> 00:48:50.000 align:middle line:90%
attacking individual teachers.
00:48:50.000 --> 00:48:55.720 align:middle line:84%
The newspapers would be full
of letters smearing me.
00:48:55.720 --> 00:48:59.330 align:middle line:84%
--and that all people with any
affiliations to this program
00:48:59.330 --> 00:49:02.360 align:middle line:84%
be investigating concerning
their private and public lives
00:49:02.360 --> 00:49:04.620 align:middle line:84%
and be given tests by a
psychiatrist to see if they
00:49:04.620 --> 00:49:06.800 align:middle line:84%
are considered sexually
normal.
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These results then should
be made public.
00:49:09.990 --> 00:49:11.990 align:middle line:90%
And it just snowballed.
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My kids are my own flesh and
blood given unto my care by
00:49:16.200 --> 00:49:17.890 align:middle line:90%
God Almighty.
00:49:17.890 --> 00:49:20.920 align:middle line:84%
And until the black day when
the state, be it local or
00:49:20.920 --> 00:49:24.150 align:middle line:84%
national, is so all powerful
that it can wrest their
00:49:24.150 --> 00:49:28.430 align:middle line:84%
physical presence from my hands,
my husband and I and
00:49:28.430 --> 00:49:32.760 align:middle line:84%
only we shall take the full
responsibility for the moral,
00:49:32.760 --> 00:49:36.141 align:middle line:84%
sexual, and ethical development
of our children.
00:49:36.141 --> 00:49:39.050 align:middle line:90%
[APPLAUSE]
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It mushroomed so that it took
us totally by surprise.
00:49:44.140 --> 00:49:47.490 align:middle line:84%
Mr. and Mrs. William Drake
produced a film called
00:49:47.490 --> 00:49:48.740 align:middle line:90%
Pavlov\'s Children.
00:49:48.740 --> 00:49:50.410 align:middle line:90%
00:49:50.410 --> 00:49:53.810 align:middle line:84%
By reducing morality of all to
the standards of the most
00:49:53.810 --> 00:49:58.340 align:middle line:84%
immoral, people will no longer
unite behind a shared outlook
00:49:58.340 --> 00:50:01.690 align:middle line:84%
and religious, ethnic,
or racial groups.
00:50:01.690 --> 00:50:05.440 align:middle line:84%
The next generation will then
be ready for homogenization
00:50:05.440 --> 00:50:11.570 align:middle line:84%
into the faceless masses of an
atheistic world tyranny.
00:50:11.570 --> 00:50:16.150 align:middle line:84%
And unless the forces of evil
are checked, every mother in
00:50:16.150 --> 00:50:22.050 align:middle line:84%
America will hold in her
arms Pavlov\'s child.
00:50:22.050 --> 00:50:26.290 align:middle line:84%
If you teach a child about all
of these things and you do not
00:50:26.290 --> 00:50:29.350 align:middle line:84%
say it\'s wrong, aren\'t you
remiss as an adult?
00:50:29.350 --> 00:50:31.210 align:middle line:84%
Isn\'t something wrong
with you--
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I hired Dr. Gordon Drake.
00:50:34.560 --> 00:50:37.910 align:middle line:84%
He wrote this book for me, Is
the Little Red Schoolhouse a
00:50:37.910 --> 00:50:40.220 align:middle line:90%
Proper Place to Teach Raw Sex?
00:50:40.220 --> 00:50:44.980 align:middle line:84%
I gave it the name and
I put the red country
00:50:44.980 --> 00:50:46.300 align:middle line:90%
church on the deal.
00:50:46.300 --> 00:50:48.560 align:middle line:84%
And I sold one million
of them.
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We\'re for keeping the United
States strong spiritually--
00:50:51.230 --> 00:50:53.940 align:middle line:84%
And then I hit the
road with him.
00:50:53.940 --> 00:50:55.530 align:middle line:90%
And we had two a night.
00:50:55.530 --> 00:51:00.820 align:middle line:84%
And then I would bring my
message on God and country.
00:51:00.820 --> 00:51:03.950 align:middle line:84%
We are for dying on our feet
if need be instead of
00:51:03.950 --> 00:51:05.370 align:middle line:90%
dying on our knees.
00:51:05.370 --> 00:51:09.807 align:middle line:90%
[APPLAUSE]
00:51:09.807 --> 00:51:12.720 align:middle line:84%
And we believe that God\'s
people must take the
00:51:12.720 --> 00:51:16.280 align:middle line:84%
leadership in the fight to
preserve constitutional
00:51:16.280 --> 00:51:19.740 align:middle line:90%
concepts and moral qualities.
00:51:19.740 --> 00:51:23.900 align:middle line:84%
And herein in sex education, the
new morality, the outdated
00:51:23.900 --> 00:51:28.270 align:middle line:84%
moralism, my friend, that they
are now crying out against, is
00:51:28.270 --> 00:51:32.890 align:middle line:84%
an attack upon God, is an attack
upon his word, and is
00:51:32.890 --> 00:51:35.150 align:middle line:84%
an attack upon that which
is spiritual.
00:51:35.150 --> 00:51:38.520 align:middle line:84%
And it brings man down to the
place that he is nothing more
00:51:38.520 --> 00:51:39.620 align:middle line:90%
than amoral.
00:51:39.620 --> 00:51:41.520 align:middle line:90%
He\'s nothing more than animal.
00:51:41.520 --> 00:51:44.140 align:middle line:84%
This is a much more fundamental
fight than the
00:51:44.140 --> 00:51:46.370 align:middle line:90%
fight about sex education.
00:51:46.370 --> 00:51:49.320 align:middle line:84%
This is a fight about who shall
determine the quality of
00:51:49.320 --> 00:51:50.660 align:middle line:90%
life in this society.
00:51:50.660 --> 00:51:56.360 align:middle line:90%
[APPLAUSE]
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You dare not fail to get
together and weld a fist to
00:52:03.910 --> 00:52:05.290 align:middle line:90%
protect your family.
00:52:05.290 --> 00:52:07.900 align:middle line:90%
Thank you.
00:52:07.900 --> 00:52:12.690 align:middle line:84%
Well, what happened in Anaheim
got everywhere.
00:52:12.690 --> 00:52:15.070 align:middle line:84%
We were getting letters
from every place.
00:52:15.070 --> 00:52:20.510 align:middle line:84%
And, of course, then school
boards and other districts
00:52:20.510 --> 00:52:22.680 align:middle line:84%
were afraid to touch
this program.
00:52:22.680 --> 00:52:24.410 align:middle line:84%
They didn\'t want
any part of it.
00:52:24.410 --> 00:52:27.770 align:middle line:84%
They saw what happened
in this city.
00:52:27.770 --> 00:52:32.250 align:middle line:84%
And it really tore friends
apart, really.
00:52:32.250 --> 00:52:34.330 align:middle line:90%
It was not nice.
00:52:34.330 --> 00:52:39.480 align:middle line:84%
I was asked to go see the
director of pupil personnel.
00:52:39.480 --> 00:52:43.450 align:middle line:90%
And so I did.
00:52:43.450 --> 00:52:49.580 align:middle line:84%
And he informed me
that I was fired.
00:52:49.580 --> 00:52:52.090 align:middle line:90%
I almost fainted.
00:52:52.090 --> 00:52:55.520 align:middle line:84%
I could just feel
the blood drain.
00:52:55.520 --> 00:52:58.040 align:middle line:90%
I couldn\'t believe it.
00:52:58.040 --> 00:53:00.100 align:middle line:84%
And that\'s what we
set out to do.
00:53:00.100 --> 00:53:05.800 align:middle line:84%
We made a pledge to the public
wherever they may have been
00:53:05.800 --> 00:53:08.290 align:middle line:84%
that this started here and
it\'s going to end here.
00:53:08.290 --> 00:53:10.260 align:middle line:84%
And that\'s exactly
what happened.
00:53:10.260 --> 00:53:15.440 align:middle line:84%
I made the statement at a school
board meeting that if
00:53:15.440 --> 00:53:19.320 align:middle line:84%
they continued on with this
type of sex instruction, I
00:53:19.320 --> 00:53:23.200 align:middle line:84%
never called it education, that
they were going to find
00:53:23.200 --> 00:53:27.360 align:middle line:84%
it necessary to distribute
condoms and other birth
00:53:27.360 --> 00:53:32.050 align:middle line:84%
control devices in our
junior high schools.
00:53:32.050 --> 00:53:34.180 align:middle line:90%
And everybody laughed.
00:53:34.180 --> 00:53:37.340 align:middle line:84%
They just thought that was
the funniest thing.
00:53:37.340 --> 00:53:41.130 align:middle line:84%
And yet that\'s precisely
what they\'re doing now.
00:53:41.130 --> 00:53:43.576 align:middle line:84%
And we\'ve taken God out
of our schools and
00:53:43.576 --> 00:53:44.630 align:middle line:90%
put all of this in.
00:53:44.630 --> 00:53:48.880 align:middle line:84%
And the Bible says whatsoever
we sow, we\'re going to reap.
00:53:48.880 --> 00:53:51.862 align:middle line:84%
And so we are reaping what
we\'ve been sowing.
00:53:51.862 --> 00:53:56.190 align:middle line:84%
And I think America is in for
the judgment of God unless we
00:53:56.190 --> 00:54:00.080 align:middle line:84%
turn around and change
our way of living.
00:54:00.080 --> 00:54:04.350 align:middle line:84%
We\'ve sown to the wind and are
now reaping a whirlwind of
00:54:04.350 --> 00:54:07.290 align:middle line:84%
crime, division,
and rebellion.
00:54:07.290 --> 00:54:11.570 align:middle line:84%
So we pray oh, God, as we enter
a new era that we as a
00:54:11.570 --> 00:54:17.310 align:middle line:84%
nation may experience a moral
and spiritual restoration.
00:54:17.310 --> 00:54:21.960 align:middle line:84%
We recognize, oh, Lord, that in
thy sovereignty, though has
00:54:21.960 --> 00:54:25.645 align:middle line:84%
permitted Richard Nixon to lead
us at this momentous hour
00:54:25.645 --> 00:54:27.340 align:middle line:90%
of our history.
00:54:27.340 --> 00:54:32.670 align:middle line:84%
Oh God, we consecrate Richard
Millhous Nixon to the
00:54:32.670 --> 00:54:36.660 align:middle line:84%
presidency of these United
States in the name of the
00:54:36.660 --> 00:54:41.350 align:middle line:84%
Prince of Peace who shed his
blood on the cross that men
00:54:41.350 --> 00:54:46.452 align:middle line:90%
might have eternal life, amen.
00:54:46.452 --> 00:54:48.540 align:middle line:84%
On the next With God
on Our Side--
00:54:48.540 --> 00:54:49.370 align:middle line:90%
Shall we pray?
00:54:49.370 --> 00:54:51.490 align:middle line:84%
--Christians look for spiritual
solutions to the
00:54:51.490 --> 00:54:53.378 align:middle line:84%
problems of the turbulent
\'60s.
00:54:53.378 --> 00:54:55.510 align:middle line:84%
The revolution starts
in your heart, baby.
00:54:55.510 --> 00:54:57.239 align:middle line:90%
Next time, part two.
00:54:57.239 --> 00:55:45.980 align:middle line:90%
[MUSIC PLAYING]
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A presentation of South Carolina
ETV in association
00:55:49.560 --> 00:55:52.350 align:middle line:84%
with the Independent
Television Service.
00:55:52.350 --> 00:55:55.270 align:middle line:84%
With God on Our Side was made
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00:55:55.270 --> 00:55:58.670 align:middle line:84%
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00:55:58.670 --> 00:56:01.480 align:middle line:90%
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00:56:01.480 --> 00:56:06.340 align:middle line:84%
Major funding was provided by
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00:56:06.340 --> 00:56:12.490 align:middle line:84%
Smith Richardson Foundation,
The Rockefeller Foundation,
00:56:12.490 --> 00:56:16.700 align:middle line:84%
The Lynde and Harry Bradley
Foundation, the William H.
00:56:16.700 --> 00:56:22.540 align:middle line:84%
Donner foundation, The Nathan
Cummings Foundation, and the
00:56:22.540 --> 00:56:25.790 align:middle line:84%
John D. and Catherine T.
MacArthur Foundation.
00:56:25.790 --> 00:56:28.120 align:middle line:84%
Additional funding was provided
by the following.
00:56:28.120 --> 00:56:32.529 align:middle line:90%
Distributor: Icarus Films
Length: 60 minutes
Date: 1996
Genre: Expository
Language: English
Grade: 8-12, College, Adult
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