With God On Our Side - Episode 3

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After Vietnam and Watergate, America is looking for a Good Father, and despite media befuddlement at the 'born-again' Jimmy Carter, his religious faith helps convince voters he can heal the nation. Carter's election heralds a new era of evangelical engagement in every area of modern life, from broadcasting to basketball. But modern life also means divorce, feminism, and gay rights, and at Carter's White House Conference on Families, conservative Christians choose polarization on those issues over reuniting the American family.

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Robertson, Cliff (Narrator)
Skaggs, Calvin (Producer)
Skaggs, Calvin (Director)
Taylor, David Van (Producer)

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Produced and directed by David Van Taylor.

MARC Record See Worldcat record

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Religious Right; President Bush; evangelical Christianity; evangelical; George W. Bush; Pat Robertson Ralph Reed; Christian Coalition; conservative ; Paul Weyrich; Reverend Jerry Falwell; Doug Wead; David Frum; Don Poage; oil-business; Bible-study; Billy Graham; Richard Nixon; video; documentary; film; Christian anti-Communism; grassroot; grassroots; Church and State ; sex education; textbook; Jimmy Carter; Moral Majority; "With God On Our Side - Episode 3"; Icarus Films;

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for Public Broadcasting and by
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viewers like you.

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Donner foundation, The Nathan
Cummings Foundation, and the

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John D. and Catherine T.
MacArthur Foundation.

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Additional funding was provided
by the following.

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[MUSIC PLAYING]

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[MUSIC PLAYING]

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You know those songs came from
the civil war, a period like

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this time this country
could not bear again.

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And yet, recently people in high
offices have placed us in

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this position through an
issue called Watergate.

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The first time after Watergate
broke, the Texas Baptist

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Christian Commission, at our
urging, they spoke out calling

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for a time of repentance and
revival in our land.

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They stink.

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They really stink.

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I mean, see, I\'m not as educated
as a lot of people.

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But the way I feel, the way I
feel is like the people here,

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the President is supposed to
help the people in the United

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States or try to.

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And I haven\'t seen him do
anything for nobody.

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And that was the main impact
that we felt from Watergate.

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It didn\'t have particularly
partisan overtones.

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We weren\'t philosophically
engaged in a heavy way.

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We just thought, oh, my gosh.

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This is going to make it harder
than ever to convince

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people that politics
isn\'t dirty.

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You\'ve got a Polaroid snapshot
of politics at its dirtiest.

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I\'m just, in a sense,
disgruntled with politicians

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in general.

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I\'m getting very bored
and very disgusted--

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As the nation approached the
1976 election, there was great

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concern about voter apathy and
cynicism towards government.

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Watergate\'s effects threatened
to spread even beyond

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presidential politics.

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We have corruption
in government.

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We have corruption at
the local level.

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And we have dishonesty
between person to

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person, between neighbors.

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We need leadership.

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We need a family where the
head of the family is

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something to follow, somebody
to show us the way.

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They ask why this phenomenon
in America, some deeper

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national yearning in the
country, a turning towards

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spirituality, a yearning
for morality.

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There are many reasons for it.

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We\'ve lost a great deal of
confidence in some of our

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institutions and there\'s a
vacuum in the country.

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There\'s been a moral
permissiveness that has

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frightened millions of
people as to what the

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future is going to be.

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There\'s been a breakdown
of the home in America.

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And now in the realm of
politics, it has come in to

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discussion.

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Americans want more than
anything else this year, in

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their President, the
spiritual quality.

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The most important thing in
my life is Jesus Christ.

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[APPLAUSE]

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It was a brand new phenomenon
to have a man running for

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president who would so clearly
state his faith and as the

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campaign unfolded, clearly
coming out of

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the religious community.

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And I formed a very close,
intimate, personal

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relationship with God through
Christ that has given me a

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great deal of peace, equanimity,
the ability to

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accept difficulties without
unnecessarily being disturbed.

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Most of the reporters who were
with him at the time had no

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idea what he was
talking about.

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It caught the mainstream press
by total surprise.

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That born again business,
what is it?

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What was this kind of thing?

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It smacked of a kind of

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backwoodsy, southern tradition.

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It was suspect.

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So we wouldn\'t see a
Cabinet composed

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exclusively of Baptists.

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No.

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As a matter of fact, Doug, I
don\'t know how many Baptists

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we have on my immediate staff.

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The mainstream press in this
country didn\'t really know

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what evangelical was.

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The Washington Post wrote that
you have to understand that we

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don\'t know much about this sort
of thing because we don\'t

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know any of these people.

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Now what does she mean?

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Are they from another planet?

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Do they not have telephones?

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Are they unable to read?

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I ended up spending a good
portion of that campaign,

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certainly far more than
I would have expected,

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attempting, as a candidate\'s
press secretary, to provide

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some rudimentary understanding
to journalists about Southern

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Baptist theology.

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As a matter of fact, John
Chancellor, who was anchoring

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the NBC Nightly News at the
time, after Carter had

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acknowledged that he had been
born again, got on national

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television and said we\'ve looked
up this born again

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business and it\'s nothing new.

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We have checked on the religious
meaning of Carter\'s

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profound experience.

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It is described by other
Baptists as a common

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experience, not something
out of the ordinary.

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Well, millions of Americans
just guffawed at this.

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It would be like saying we have
considered the state of

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African Americans and we have
determined that they are human

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beings or that we have studied
the history of women and we\'ve

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decided that they are
equal to men.

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It is amazing to hear something
like this from an

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educated person.

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And everybody is asking, what
does it mean to be born again?

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I was asked by the American
Jewish Committee to come and

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speak to their regional meeting,
their state meeting,

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and explain what being
born again meant.

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I was interviewed by the press
and local television all over

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the place about what\'s
an evangelist?

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What\'s an evangelical?

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What\'s a Baptist?

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What does born again mean?

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Where does this come from?

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And Jesus answered and said unto
him, verily, verily I say

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unto thee, except a man be born
again, he cannot see the

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Kingdom of God.

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That phrase is as familiar--

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or it was--

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and as uncontroversial to me
as almost anything, as our

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Father who art in heaven.

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How can a man be born
when he is old?

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Can he enter a second
time into his

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mother\'s womb and be born?

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And Jesus answered, verily,
verily, I say unto thee,

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except a man be born of water
and of the spirit, he cannot

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enter into the Kingdom of God.

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That which is born of
flesh is flesh.

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That which is born of
spirit is spirit.

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Marvel not that I say unto you,
you must be born again.

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The interesting thing is that
with respect to Jimmy Carter,

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none of this was contrived.

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This was, in fact, a very deeply
felt part of his own

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background.

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He did teach Sunday
School on Sundays.

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He did go to church.

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It was not somehow inventing
him in an unreal situation.

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It was, rather, capturing
the whole person

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that had to be portrayed.

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And so there was a desire to
portray that, but at the same

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time, not to exaggerate it
because to exaggerate it would

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exaggerate the degree to which
the religious side was

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critical to his role as governor
and future president,

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but also would risk a
counter reaction.

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In the eyes of a lot of
reporters, look, there\'s no

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way on this earth I would ever
go to church every Sunday

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unless it furthered my career
or my prospects or whatever.

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Jimmy Carter is going to
church every Sunday.

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It must be some cynical
manipulation or exploitation

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or hypocritical gesture.

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We have room for about twenty
or thirty more folks if you

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all want to come on in
and worship with us.

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Newsweek, June 7, said about
that candidate, his illusions

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to his personal relationship
with Jesus Christ are

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considered bad form.

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Brother, if there\'s anything we
need, whether it\'s bad form

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or good politics, is a man who
is more proud of his faith in

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Christ than any political
aspirations he might have.

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[APPLAUSE]

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And it would certainly be
improper for me to call that

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man\'s name, but his initials
are the same as our Lord\'s.

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Interestingly, on the upside,
there was no question but that

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this resonated amongst a whole
group of people who, I must

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say, I was unaware of up to
that point, who consider

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themselves, literally millions,
as born again, the

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whole notion of having a sort
of religious revival

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in their own life.

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I loved Jimmy Carter.

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In the United States of America,
who we say we allow

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people the privilege of their
religion and things, and here

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was a man running for the
president and very few of us

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say anything about the
Lord or Jesus.

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And he said, born
again christian.

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[MUSIC PLAYING]

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I can remember the
night I heard it.

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And I was shocked.

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But I knew what I had to do.

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I had to work for him.

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And I did.

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I was, at the time, with Campus
Crusade for Christ and

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can very well remember a number
of the people in the

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movement of Campus Crusade,
fellow staff members, who were

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very excited about
Jimmy Carter.

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And it was all built around the
concept or the reason that

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he had talked about
being born again.

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I supported him in Pennsylvania,
the primary

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there, with some friends
that I had when he was

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running as a Democrat.

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We interviewed him maybe
a year before that.

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So we\'re looking at--

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he was elected in \'76 and \'75.

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So somewhere in the \'74 era,
I think, we were on a plane

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together to some stop in the
Midwest in those days.

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So he was highly regarded by
the evangelicals in those

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early days.

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Only a short time remains
until the

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upcoming national elections.

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We have asked 225,000 pastors to
lead their congregations in

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special prayer for our nation
during the seven Sundays prior

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to the election.

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Would you join us in praying
just 15 minutes a day during

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the next 40 days?

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Will you pray for your country,
for your families,

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for your schools and churches,
for your government?

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Will you pray that God\'s
will will be done in

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this upcoming election?

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Amen.

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And I believe that I can be
a better president if I am

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elected because of my faith.

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He spoke the language.

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He was wearing the coloration
that made these folks think,

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hey, he must be one of
ours because he was

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a born again Christian.

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He spoke about that.

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He was from the South.

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And he had the trappings.

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And people who were Christian
but apolitical

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responded to him.

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Thank you.

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[INAUDIBLE] over the baby too?

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It was very important, if a
Democrat was going to have any

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chance of winning, to become, in
effect, a new Democrat, not

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part of that anti establishment,
anti

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traditional value mode.

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They wanted a solidity, a
certain return to religiosity,

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a notion of having someone who
had very firm roots, very

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deeply felt family values, who
would come to the White House

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and transfer those values
on a nationwide basis.

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His emphasis on family values
and traditional values was in

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fact absolutely critical.

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[MUSIC PLAYING]

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It was a metaphor for the
broader need to heal the

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country as a whole.

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We have lived through a time of
torment and now we are near

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a time of healing.

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Out of our national diversity
can come national unity.

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I ask you to help us bind up our
nation\'s wounds to help us

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reach that point of healing.

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[MUSIC PLAYING]

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Ladies and gentlemen, the next
president of the United

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States, Governor Jimmy Carter.

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[APPLAUSE]

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I have just taken the oath of
office on the bible my mother

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gave me just a few years ago,
opened to a timeless

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admonition from the ancient
prophet, Micah.

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\"And what does the Lord require
of thee but to do

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justly and to love mercy and to
walk humbly with thy God?\"

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By the mid 1970s, evangelicals
were exalting their

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Christianity in every arena
of modern American life.

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And the media, inspired by
Carter\'s election, were eager

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to make sense of this seemingly
new phenomenon.

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Our segment three this evening,
the second in our

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striking series on the born
again Christians or

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evangelicals, who are, believe
it or not, one third of the

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adult Christians in America.

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Christians have come a long way
from the Roman Colosseum.

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What you are seeing is a movie
produced by the evangelical\'s

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leading intellectual, Doctor
Francis Schaeffer, who, in

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1977, sees Christians not
as victims in the

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world, but as leaders.

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After we are Christians then it
is our responsibility to be

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an influence on our culture.

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We are to be the salt
in that influence.

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Francis Schaeffer for me, as for
thousands of young English

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and American students who were
Christians, was a door opener.

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It was not only OK, it was
right and proper and

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responsible as a Christian to
understand the whole of life.

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All truth is God\'s truths, as
the early Christians said.

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He was pointing at art.

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He was pointing at music.

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He was pointing at film.

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He was pointing at theater.

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He was pointing at government.

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He was talking about policy.

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And all these issues,
evangelicals had kind of been

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on the off list.

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We didn\'t go to movies when
I grew up, you know?

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And now he was talking about the
great films, the way they

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changed our lives.

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We didn\'t go to Florence
to look at the

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statues with leaves.

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We stayed home and looked at
Sallman\'s Head of Christ on a

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flannelgraph.

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And suddenly, Francis was
opening the whole world to us

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and saying, we\'re Christians.

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This all belongs to us.

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[MUSIC PLAYING]

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Supper Clubs can fill a
community wide need for a

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night spot, a family style night
spot where they know

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they can go be entertained and
have a deluxe environment.

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[MUSIC PLAYING]

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We\'re an amateur team.

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And we\'re all former college
athletes that have graduated

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from across the country.

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And we\'re joined together now
for a common cause besides

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basketball and that is to share
with others the person

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of Jesus Christ.

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Religion is business.

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And in America it is big
business, very big business.

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[MUSIC PLAYING]

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You are the self proclaimed
king of American

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pornographers.

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And now something has
happened to you.

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Can you describe yourself as a
born again Christian, which is

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a phrase and an experience that
a lot of people are now

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familiar with?

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Or were you ever born the
first time in terms of

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Christianity?

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I don\'t think I was ever
born the first time.

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I know that I am
born again now.

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[MUSIC PLAYING]

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Do not think Christianity\'s
a small thing.

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Do not sell it short.

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Christianity\'s intellectually
viable.

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Christianity is intellectually
saleable to our generation.

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Christianity covers the whole
spectrum of life.

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You need never be
ashamed of it.

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No matter how far you go, you\'ll
never sail off the end

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of the world.

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The Bible is there
and it covers the

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whole spectrum of life.

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I lay upon you, God has given
us a beautiful thing.

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Please do not truncate it and
do not sell it short.

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This is the 700 Club.

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On this edition, we speculate
on man\'s future in space.

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Now, here\'s your host,
Pat Robertson.

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Thank you ladies and
gentlemen, a

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little space walk.

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Hey, Mr. Spock, good morning.

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Good morning, Captain.

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We went on the air in 1973
with a station in Dallas,

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Texas UHF Independent.

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Up to this time, I laughingly
said we were playing soccer

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and everybody else was
playing football.

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There was nothing.

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There were about four
full time employees.

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It was 17,000 watts of black
and white television.

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You couldn\'t pick up the signal
around the block.

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If you had to have a radio, I
mean, some kind of antenna,

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you had to get a piece
of wire or a coat

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hanger to make a loop.

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Nobody knew what UHF was.

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Nobody got it.

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Nobody cared about it.

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And I began to look at the
rating books and begin to

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understand how audience
flow worked.

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And I understood what the
demographics in America were.

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And I, therefore, began to
purchase some of the wholesome

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situation comedies, the Dick
Van Dykes, Hogan\'s Heros,

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Gomer Pyle, that stuff, Leave
it to Beaver, et cetera,

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Lassie, some of those classics,
and began to program

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our television stations with
this type of fare, with the

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religious programs having a
key slot in prime time.

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I think the first program, the
secular program we had was

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Queen for a Day.

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And when that one aired, there
were many that were just so

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upset because on that first
program, that program happened

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to have a number of ladies in
bathing suits, as I recall,

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for some reason.

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And so that got a lot of people

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upset within the debate.

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OK, now we\'re beginning
to compromise.

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See, our first program, we put
it on the air and we haven\'t

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even got a commercial and we\'re
already starting to

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compromise.

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Well, our afternoon audience
jumped 400% in two weeks in

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our station in Norfolk.

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And in Dallas we had some
extremely favorable ratings.

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As a matter of fact, we exceeded
in the ratings the

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Double Day, which had been
around for 10 years.

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Calls are coming in right
at this minute--

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For Pat Robertson, it was
important that CBN look like

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the best television could do,
with as much sophistication,

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so that they could feel proud of
themselves as evangelicals

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and that he could have let them
feel that they were just

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as good as any one else.

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And driving my car that weekend,
I looked at Dottie

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and I said, darling, there\'s no
doubt in my mind that Jesus

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Christ is the Son of God.

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And Charlie Duke was
born again that

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instant, praise God.

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[APPLAUSE]

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Compared to going in with
the moon, no comparison.

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Pat, for six years, I said I
could live for 1,000 years and

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never have an experience like
walking on the moon.

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But that moon trip lasted
for three days.

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And my walk with Jesus
is forever.

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And that walk with Jesus is so
fantastic that I don\'t even

00:21:53.740 --> 00:21:55.300 align:middle line:90%
compare walking on the moon.

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Praise God.

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The world is lost.

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But the people who make up that
lost world are made in

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the image of God so they
have great value.

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But the world is not
only lost, the

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20th century is broken.

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It is full of tears.

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It has no answers.

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And it\'s up to us to stand on
the word of God in order to

00:22:18.880 --> 00:22:21.910 align:middle line:84%
reach out to these people who
are not only lost for eternity

00:22:21.910 --> 00:22:25.020 align:middle line:84%
if they do not turn to Christ,
but are meaningless now.

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[MUSIC PLAYING]

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Many evangelical and
fundamentalists felt that the

00:22:41.880 --> 00:22:45.190 align:middle line:84%
very nation their parents and
grandparents had handed them

00:22:45.190 --> 00:22:48.440 align:middle line:84%
was being squandered by
the \'60s generation.

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Now everything is about
sex and sensuality.

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Everything is about
feeling good.

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Everything is about your
erogenous zones.

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Everything is about this world,
this moment, this very

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nanosecond.

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These are not the cause
of our decadence but a

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reflection of it.

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You get these things when a
nation turns its back on God,

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on moral principles, don\'t teach
them at home, don\'t live

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them at home, don\'t teach them
in school and reinforce them

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in the culture.

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To see groups that were actually
parading down the

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street with big signs
that were the

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Socialist Party and Lesbian.

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There was a group of prostitutes
as well as others.

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But these sort of things just
kind of made pictures in my

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mind I hadn\'t ever
seen ever before.

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[MUSIC PLAYING]

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And that is what they did.

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And they did it on national
television.

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As Anita Bryant and others
have discovered, another

00:23:44.330 --> 00:23:48.720 align:middle line:84%
American minority is loudly
demanding equal treatment.

00:23:48.720 --> 00:23:52.900 align:middle line:84%
Anita Bryant was speaking out
on the homosexual movement.

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And she was getting accosted
or she\'d get a pie

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thrown in her face.

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I have been blacklisted for
exercising the right of a

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mother to defend her children
and all children against their

00:24:05.220 --> 00:24:07.400 align:middle line:84%
being recruited by
homosexuals.

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I kept saying why don\'t the
ministers stand up?

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Why does a woman have to stand
up and get the abuse of these

00:24:12.770 --> 00:24:13.670 align:middle line:90%
homosexuals?

00:24:13.670 --> 00:24:20.850 align:middle line:90%
[MUSIC PLAYING]

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We got a note back from a third
grade teacher of our

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youngest son inviting parents to
a meeting at the school to

00:24:27.370 --> 00:24:29.470 align:middle line:84%
discuss the growing
drug problem in

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the elementary school.

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And at that point, we
said this is it,

00:24:32.290 --> 00:24:33.130 align:middle line:90%
pulled them all out.

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And were determined
to put them in

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private Christian schools.

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The American family.

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Is it an endangered species?

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The longer I\'m laid off, as
money gets tighter, you have a

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tendency to pick at each
other a little bit.

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Well, at the last yearly
count, there

00:24:48.690 --> 00:24:51.970 align:middle line:90%
were 1,100,000 divorces.

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And those divorces involved more
than 1,117,000 children.

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The word family has got to be
defined a lot more generously

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than it has been through
our recent history.

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You know, you could even have
two lesbians bringing up a

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child in a wonderful way.

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The birth of the world\'s first
so-called test tube baby in

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England has raised fears that
women who don\'t want to be

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bothered with carrying a child
for nine months may hire other

00:25:17.600 --> 00:25:19.090 align:middle line:90%
women to do it for them.

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People said, why do we have
these rules about divorce?

00:25:21.730 --> 00:25:24.710 align:middle line:84%
Why do we have these rules about
pornography and so on?

00:25:24.710 --> 00:25:27.770 align:middle line:84%
These are just dead customs
passed along from our

00:25:27.770 --> 00:25:28.300 align:middle line:90%
forbearers.

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We don\'t know why
they existed.

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What you\'re saying is that
parents really ought to

00:25:32.030 --> 00:25:33.760 align:middle line:90%
discuss the merits of

00:25:33.760 --> 00:25:35.040 align:middle line:90%
masturbation with their children.

00:25:35.040 --> 00:25:36.080 align:middle line:90%
Yeah, they certainly should.

00:25:36.080 --> 00:25:42.236 align:middle line:90%
[MUSIC PLAYING]

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Recent statistics show that one
half of the teenage girls

00:25:45.560 --> 00:25:48.182 align:middle line:84%
in the United States
are not virgins.

00:25:48.182 --> 00:25:50.470 align:middle line:84%
The teenager named James
who lost his

00:25:50.470 --> 00:25:52.094 align:middle line:90%
virginity in prime time--

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It makes it like if you
don\'t have sex,

00:25:55.230 --> 00:25:56.880 align:middle line:90%
what\'s wrong with you?

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One thing that people do, which
is probably incorrect,

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is to try to persuade the young
people to stop doing

00:26:04.060 --> 00:26:05.125 align:middle line:90%
what they\'re doing.

00:26:05.125 --> 00:26:13.690 align:middle line:90%
[MUSIC PLAYING]

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Name the issue that dominated
the \'70s more than any other.

00:26:17.410 --> 00:26:18.090 align:middle line:90%
Women\'s rights.

00:26:18.090 --> 00:26:21.660 align:middle line:84%
The Equal Rights Amendment,
abortion, affirmative action

00:26:21.660 --> 00:26:24.320 align:middle line:84%
for women in all
kinds of jobs.

00:26:24.320 --> 00:26:27.710 align:middle line:84%
Women became firemen,
astronauts, the mayor of

00:26:27.710 --> 00:26:29.815 align:middle line:84%
Chicago, the governor
of Connecticut.

00:26:29.815 --> 00:26:33.815 align:middle line:90%

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The Equal Rights Amendment
is basically a fraud.

00:26:37.490 --> 00:26:41.090 align:middle line:84%
It pretends and proclaims that
it\'s going to give some

00:26:41.090 --> 00:26:43.550 align:middle line:90%
benefit to women.

00:26:43.550 --> 00:26:47.740 align:middle line:84%
There\'s no benefit
for women in it.

00:26:47.740 --> 00:26:51.820 align:middle line:84%
So we set out the call to the
various churches across the

00:26:51.820 --> 00:26:55.240 align:middle line:84%
country, told them that they
were threatened by the Equal

00:26:55.240 --> 00:26:59.230 align:middle line:84%
Rights Amendment and they needed
to come to a rally.

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We had all the various
Protestant denominations.

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We had the Catholics.

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We had the Mormons.

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We have the Orthodox Jews.

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And when the Baptist
joined us, that

00:27:08.990 --> 00:27:10.660 align:middle line:90%
really doubled our strength.

00:27:10.660 --> 00:27:15.830 align:middle line:84%
The masses of American people
and particularly evangelical

00:27:15.830 --> 00:27:19.840 align:middle line:84%
women began to wake up to the
fact that we were being

00:27:19.840 --> 00:27:24.070 align:middle line:84%
overrun by this group of
feminists who claimed to speak

00:27:24.070 --> 00:27:25.790 align:middle line:90%
for all of us.

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Most of these people didn\'t know
each other before then.

00:27:29.190 --> 00:27:30.630 align:middle line:90%
But they came.

00:27:30.630 --> 00:27:32.030 align:middle line:90%
They followed us.

00:27:32.030 --> 00:27:33.980 align:middle line:90%
We had the demonstrations.

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And they realized they could
work together on behalf of a

00:27:37.008 --> 00:27:38.674 align:middle line:90%
common goal.

00:27:38.674 --> 00:27:43.910 align:middle line:90%
[MUSIC PLAYING]

00:27:43.910 --> 00:27:45.200 align:middle line:84%
Mr. President, I
appreciate this

00:27:45.200 --> 00:27:48.170 align:middle line:90%
opportunity to talk to you.

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I feel that you are violating
the states rights when you

00:27:51.310 --> 00:27:54.880 align:middle line:84%
call into the different states
and lobby for the ERA.

00:27:54.880 --> 00:27:59.260 align:middle line:84%
OK, well, I think you probably
have noticed that the final

00:27:59.260 --> 00:28:01.600 align:middle line:84%
decision is with the
state legislatures.

00:28:01.600 --> 00:28:03.890 align:middle line:84%
And although I have made a few
telephone calls since I\'ve

00:28:03.890 --> 00:28:06.520 align:middle line:84%
been in office and have talked
some personally and to some

00:28:06.520 --> 00:28:09.650 align:middle line:84%
governors about the passage
of ERA, I haven\'t tried to

00:28:09.650 --> 00:28:11.800 align:middle line:84%
interfere or put pressure
on them.

00:28:11.800 --> 00:28:14.960 align:middle line:84%
When I ran for president, I made
it clear that I was in

00:28:14.960 --> 00:28:18.460 align:middle line:84%
favor of the Equal Rights
Amendment passing and still am

00:28:18.460 --> 00:28:20.610 align:middle line:84%
in favor of it and hope
it does pass.

00:28:20.610 --> 00:28:24.050 align:middle line:84%
I remember Jimmy Carter coming
out as an evangelical born

00:28:24.050 --> 00:28:28.210 align:middle line:84%
again Baptist and remember the
great spirit of cheering that

00:28:28.210 --> 00:28:32.430 align:middle line:84%
went up on first hearing all
across the evangelical world.

00:28:32.430 --> 00:28:34.570 align:middle line:84%
And then to begin to find out
that his politics were more

00:28:34.570 --> 00:28:38.330 align:middle line:84%
liberal, and then they
got confused.

00:28:38.330 --> 00:28:41.510 align:middle line:84%
He invited 12 ministers
in for breakfast.

00:28:41.510 --> 00:28:46.050 align:middle line:84%
And I was one of the
12 invited in.

00:28:46.050 --> 00:28:49.640 align:middle line:84%
And I asked him something about
why he, as a Christian

00:28:49.640 --> 00:28:54.510 align:middle line:84%
and a pro family man as he
protested to be, was in favor

00:28:54.510 --> 00:28:56.865 align:middle line:84%
of the Equal Rights Amendment
in view of the fact that it

00:28:56.865 --> 00:28:58.800 align:middle line:84%
would be so harmful
to the family.

00:28:58.800 --> 00:29:03.210 align:middle line:84%
And he gave some way off the
wall answer that the Equal

00:29:03.210 --> 00:29:05.590 align:middle line:84%
Rights Amendment was good
for the family.

00:29:05.590 --> 00:29:07.730 align:middle line:84%
Well I knew when he said that,
he was out to lunch.

00:29:07.730 --> 00:29:11.810 align:middle line:84%
I think during the Carter
administration, because he was

00:29:11.810 --> 00:29:14.810 align:middle line:84%
a self proclaimed born again
Christian, he had an enormous

00:29:14.810 --> 00:29:16.900 align:middle line:84%
amount of goodwill among
evangelicals.

00:29:16.900 --> 00:29:21.270 align:middle line:84%
I think prayer was not so much
for the nation as for him and

00:29:21.270 --> 00:29:24.490 align:middle line:84%
to encourage him that we might
see some shift away from the

00:29:24.490 --> 00:29:27.220 align:middle line:84%
malaise and so forth that
they talked about.

00:29:27.220 --> 00:29:30.820 align:middle line:84%
And before his administration
was finished, however, the

00:29:30.820 --> 00:29:33.500 align:middle line:84%
evangelicals had become totally
disillusioned with

00:29:33.500 --> 00:29:36.740 align:middle line:84%
Carter and were praying that
somehow the Lord would deliver

00:29:36.740 --> 00:29:38.200 align:middle line:90%
us from him.

00:29:38.200 --> 00:29:43.030 align:middle line:84%
One of the most difficult things
to sustain as president

00:29:43.030 --> 00:29:47.680 align:middle line:84%
is sort of subliminal,
general themes.

00:29:47.680 --> 00:29:50.510 align:middle line:84%
And I think one of our
difficulties, perhaps

00:29:50.510 --> 00:29:53.880 align:middle line:84%
failings, was not doing
a better job of that.

00:29:53.880 --> 00:29:56.150 align:middle line:84%
But the reason why it\'s so
difficult is simply that a

00:29:56.150 --> 00:30:02.420 align:middle line:84%
president has to make real life
decisions, hundreds and

00:30:02.420 --> 00:30:07.590 align:middle line:84%
hundreds of decisions, economic
decisions, foreign

00:30:07.590 --> 00:30:13.020 align:middle line:84%
policy decisions, which tend
to overwhelm these more

00:30:13.020 --> 00:30:14.800 align:middle line:90%
subliminal messages.

00:30:14.800 --> 00:30:17.860 align:middle line:84%
Now, we did in fact, in many
ways, try to carry through the

00:30:17.860 --> 00:30:21.010 align:middle line:84%
family values, traditional
values notion, the dealing

00:30:21.010 --> 00:30:27.000 align:middle line:84%
with things like the marriage
penalty in the tax code, with

00:30:27.000 --> 00:30:30.530 align:middle line:84%
him going to church and teaching
on Sunday even as

00:30:30.530 --> 00:30:35.330 align:middle line:84%
President as a part of his
regular routine, of having a

00:30:35.330 --> 00:30:39.740 align:middle line:84%
prayer before meetings with
congressional leadership.

00:30:39.740 --> 00:30:42.360 align:middle line:84%
And there were a number of
things like that were done and

00:30:42.360 --> 00:30:45.620 align:middle line:84%
that were, again, not at all
contrived, part of the

00:30:45.620 --> 00:30:47.240 align:middle line:90%
essential Carter.

00:30:47.240 --> 00:30:49.200 align:middle line:84%
Ladies and Gentlemen,
the President

00:30:49.200 --> 00:30:50.670 align:middle line:90%
of the United States.

00:30:50.670 --> 00:30:57.050 align:middle line:90%
[APPLAUSE]

00:30:57.050 --> 00:31:02.540 align:middle line:84%
I talked last Sunday night about
a crisis of confidence

00:31:02.540 --> 00:31:04.320 align:middle line:90%
in our country.

00:31:04.320 --> 00:31:09.720 align:middle line:84%
And the family is very much part
of that crisis, part of

00:31:09.720 --> 00:31:11.620 align:middle line:90%
the problem, yes.

00:31:11.620 --> 00:31:13.620 align:middle line:84%
But much more importantly,
it is a

00:31:13.620 --> 00:31:17.580 align:middle line:90%
major part of the solution.

00:31:17.580 --> 00:31:21.390 align:middle line:84%
Without question the American
family is in trouble.

00:31:21.390 --> 00:31:24.920 align:middle line:84%
The family has survived,
though, many social and

00:31:24.920 --> 00:31:27.760 align:middle line:84%
technological revolutions
in the past.

00:31:27.760 --> 00:31:30.230 align:middle line:84%
And our families
can survive the

00:31:30.230 --> 00:31:33.020 align:middle line:90%
current changes and stresses.

00:31:33.020 --> 00:31:34.980 align:middle line:90%
They are too precious.

00:31:34.980 --> 00:31:40.210 align:middle line:84%
The families are too basic, too
essential not to survive.

00:31:40.210 --> 00:31:44.320 align:middle line:84%
Ultimately, the family may
emerge from this test even

00:31:44.320 --> 00:31:48.890 align:middle line:84%
stronger if we are successful
and the American people are

00:31:48.890 --> 00:31:53.880 align:middle line:84%
successful in facing facts
and acting together.

00:31:53.880 --> 00:31:56.050 align:middle line:84%
I had no intention for working
for the White House conference

00:31:56.050 --> 00:31:56.830 align:middle line:90%
on families.

00:31:56.830 --> 00:32:00.130 align:middle line:84%
But then we talked about how
they might go about trying to

00:32:00.130 --> 00:32:03.450 align:middle line:84%
listen to families and
accomplish some things.

00:32:03.450 --> 00:32:05.720 align:middle line:84%
And my advice to them was they
ought to get it out of

00:32:05.720 --> 00:32:06.850 align:middle line:90%
Washington.

00:32:06.850 --> 00:32:09.290 align:middle line:84%
They ought to listen more than
they ought to talk, that I was

00:32:09.290 --> 00:32:11.300 align:middle line:84%
not very enamored of traditional
White House

00:32:11.300 --> 00:32:15.180 align:middle line:84%
conference on families and that
they ought to spend less

00:32:15.180 --> 00:32:17.590 align:middle line:84%
of their energy on a big
Washington meeting and more of

00:32:17.590 --> 00:32:21.000 align:middle line:84%
their energy on listening to
families and hearings and

00:32:21.000 --> 00:32:24.160 align:middle line:84%
state dialogues and sort
of decentralize it.

00:32:24.160 --> 00:32:28.010 align:middle line:84%
And they liked that idea for
some reason and decided that I

00:32:28.010 --> 00:32:29.110 align:middle line:90%
ought to do it.

00:32:29.110 --> 00:32:31.880 align:middle line:84%
Organizers tried to make the
conference a model of public

00:32:31.880 --> 00:32:33.740 align:middle line:84%
outreach, with hearings
and delegate

00:32:33.740 --> 00:32:35.550 align:middle line:90%
elections across the country.

00:32:35.550 --> 00:32:37.570 align:middle line:84%
To help determine the conference
agenda, they

00:32:37.570 --> 00:32:39.890 align:middle line:84%
commissioned a nationwide
Gallup survey.

00:32:39.890 --> 00:32:42.680 align:middle line:84%
It revealed that Americans
were most concerned about

00:32:42.680 --> 00:32:45.860 align:middle line:84%
economic pressures on family
life, such as inflation,

00:32:45.860 --> 00:32:48.010 align:middle line:90%
taxes, and health care costs.

00:32:48.010 --> 00:32:50.480 align:middle line:84%
Is there anything in it that
surprised you or that really

00:32:50.480 --> 00:32:51.550 align:middle line:90%
struck you?

00:32:51.550 --> 00:32:55.130 align:middle line:84%
I guess some of the intensity of
emotion surprised me a bit.

00:32:55.130 --> 00:32:59.320 align:middle line:84%
For one thing, 80% of the
American people say that their

00:32:59.320 --> 00:33:02.860 align:middle line:84%
family is the most important
thing in their life or one of

00:33:02.860 --> 00:33:05.480 align:middle line:84%
the very most important things,
not their job, not

00:33:05.480 --> 00:33:07.290 align:middle line:84%
some hobby, not some
other outside

00:33:07.290 --> 00:33:09.040 align:middle line:90%
activity, but their family.

00:33:09.040 --> 00:33:11.870 align:middle line:84%
And I guess, secondly, there\'s
some fairly traditional values

00:33:11.870 --> 00:33:13.810 align:middle line:84%
that showed up that
were very strong.

00:33:13.810 --> 00:33:17.010 align:middle line:84%
And I don\'t think they had
any glimpse of the

00:33:17.010 --> 00:33:18.880 align:middle line:90%
difference in worldview.

00:33:18.880 --> 00:33:22.610 align:middle line:84%
I don\'t think it had come across
their radar screen that

00:33:22.610 --> 00:33:25.860 align:middle line:84%
there were people out there, let
alone a significant number

00:33:25.860 --> 00:33:29.670 align:middle line:84%
of people out there, who didn\'t
think government was an

00:33:29.670 --> 00:33:33.140 align:middle line:84%
extension of themselves and
performing the works of

00:33:33.140 --> 00:33:36.450 align:middle line:84%
charity, who didn\'t think that
government was always to be

00:33:36.450 --> 00:33:39.040 align:middle line:90%
trusted and looked to.

00:33:39.040 --> 00:33:42.830 align:middle line:84%
I don\'t think they realized that
there were intelligent,

00:33:42.830 --> 00:33:46.780 align:middle line:84%
articulate, credible people out
there in large numbers who

00:33:46.780 --> 00:33:49.010 align:middle line:84%
had a totally different
point of view.

00:33:49.010 --> 00:33:53.050 align:middle line:84%
In the evangelical world family
seminars, marriage

00:33:53.050 --> 00:33:58.120 align:middle line:84%
seminars, children seminars,
parenting, those kinds of

00:33:58.120 --> 00:33:59.840 align:middle line:84%
things were natural
and normal.

00:33:59.840 --> 00:34:04.470 align:middle line:84%
And speakers traveled all over
and tapes were disseminated.

00:34:04.470 --> 00:34:07.400 align:middle line:84%
It was just a natural
part of our world.

00:34:07.400 --> 00:34:11.080 align:middle line:84%
And to then see that a White
House conference on the family

00:34:11.080 --> 00:34:14.760 align:middle line:84%
was going to take place and it
was kind of like these people

00:34:14.760 --> 00:34:18.989 align:middle line:84%
weren\'t even a part of it, I
think that created, at the

00:34:18.989 --> 00:34:23.060 align:middle line:84%
grassroots level as well
as in my own mind,

00:34:23.060 --> 00:34:24.820 align:middle line:90%
something\'s wrong here.

00:34:24.820 --> 00:34:28.560 align:middle line:84%
Either it\'s been rigged or they
genuinely don\'t know what

00:34:28.560 --> 00:34:29.190 align:middle line:90%
they\'re doing.

00:34:29.190 --> 00:34:32.850 align:middle line:84%
I remember going up to a
meeting of conservative

00:34:32.850 --> 00:34:36.214 align:middle line:84%
political groups on the hill
organized, I think by Paul

00:34:36.214 --> 00:34:39.560 align:middle line:84%
Weyrich or somebody else, where
for about an hour and a

00:34:39.560 --> 00:34:41.909 align:middle line:84%
half we were told what
we were doing to

00:34:41.909 --> 00:34:43.350 align:middle line:90%
destroy American families.

00:34:43.350 --> 00:34:46.780 align:middle line:84%
And we invited them in and
said get involved.

00:34:46.780 --> 00:34:49.020 align:middle line:84%
This is going to be a
process, a dialogue.

00:34:49.020 --> 00:34:51.650 align:middle line:84%
I think this has been the most
open White House conference in

00:34:51.650 --> 00:34:54.120 align:middle line:84%
history and that we are going
to have an awful lot of

00:34:54.120 --> 00:34:56.330 align:middle line:84%
delegates here who are not
here grinding their own

00:34:56.330 --> 00:34:59.360 align:middle line:84%
particular axes but are here
to represent their families

00:34:59.360 --> 00:35:00.610 align:middle line:90%
and families like them.

00:35:00.610 --> 00:35:04.690 align:middle line:84%
I think there were about four
or six of us from the

00:35:04.690 --> 00:35:08.900 align:middle line:84%
Lynchburg County area that
went as delegates.

00:35:08.900 --> 00:35:12.090 align:middle line:84%
And I felt like maybe I was the
token homemaker that got

00:35:12.090 --> 00:35:14.080 align:middle line:90%
to go, I don\'t know.

00:35:14.080 --> 00:35:16.060 align:middle line:84%
I mean I had been working in the
political arena, there was

00:35:16.060 --> 00:35:19.110 align:middle line:84%
no question about that in terms
of public policy for

00:35:19.110 --> 00:35:21.110 align:middle line:84%
children, youth, families,
those kinds of things.

00:35:21.110 --> 00:35:25.950 align:middle line:84%
But we had really worked on very
much of a kind of across

00:35:25.950 --> 00:35:27.970 align:middle line:90%
the spectrum bipartisan--

00:35:27.970 --> 00:35:30.920 align:middle line:84%
you know, whenever we worked in
the legislature, we worked

00:35:30.920 --> 00:35:31.940 align:middle line:90%
both sides of the aisle.

00:35:31.940 --> 00:35:34.770 align:middle line:84%
You never worked one side,
not the other.

00:35:34.770 --> 00:35:38.170 align:middle line:84%
And children\'s issues were very
much bipartisan issues.

00:35:38.170 --> 00:35:38.845 align:middle line:90%
We went.

00:35:38.845 --> 00:35:42.470 align:middle line:84%
I went because I was involved
in daycare, organizing

00:35:42.470 --> 00:35:45.740 align:middle line:84%
daycare, was all over the state
of Iowa dealing with

00:35:45.740 --> 00:35:48.570 align:middle line:84%
daycare issues, dealing with
people that couldn\'t get in

00:35:48.570 --> 00:35:52.210 align:middle line:84%
daycare, trying to get
legislation through that would

00:35:52.210 --> 00:35:55.500 align:middle line:84%
help people, minorities and poor
people, to get daycare,

00:35:55.500 --> 00:35:59.540 align:middle line:84%
working on trying to see that
the children in the home,

00:35:59.540 --> 00:36:01.540 align:middle line:84%
their parents, would be able
to get training and things.

00:36:01.540 --> 00:36:03.150 align:middle line:84%
Should go in there
with all this--

00:36:03.150 --> 00:36:07.850 align:middle line:84%
people came in with research
they did and reasoning.

00:36:07.850 --> 00:36:09.020 align:middle line:90%
We didn\'t have that.

00:36:09.020 --> 00:36:12.390 align:middle line:84%
I did have work to do there
about speaking out and

00:36:12.390 --> 00:36:16.400 align:middle line:84%
representing what I knew about
child advocacy issues, what I

00:36:16.400 --> 00:36:18.590 align:middle line:84%
knew about child welfare, what I
know about child abuse, what

00:36:18.590 --> 00:36:20.460 align:middle line:84%
I knew about juvenile
delinquency, et cetera.

00:36:20.460 --> 00:36:25.230 align:middle line:84%
So I was there for that and was
committed to representing

00:36:25.230 --> 00:36:26.770 align:middle line:90%
my state in that.

00:36:26.770 --> 00:36:28.480 align:middle line:84%
How about the special
interest groups?

00:36:28.480 --> 00:36:29.890 align:middle line:84%
The special interest groups
will be here.

00:36:29.890 --> 00:36:30.880 align:middle line:90%
They\'re conservative.

00:36:30.880 --> 00:36:31.220 align:middle line:90%
They\'re liberal.

00:36:31.220 --> 00:36:35.040 align:middle line:84%
They\'re particularly concerned
about one or more issues.

00:36:35.040 --> 00:36:35.520 align:middle line:90%
They\'ll be here.

00:36:35.520 --> 00:36:36.760 align:middle line:84%
But I don\'t think they\'re
going to be able

00:36:36.760 --> 00:36:39.240 align:middle line:90%
to overwhelm anybody.

00:36:39.240 --> 00:36:41.270 align:middle line:84%
In order to get a recommendation
out of this

00:36:41.270 --> 00:36:43.350 align:middle line:84%
conference, they\'re going to
have to get a majority of the

00:36:43.350 --> 00:36:45.140 align:middle line:84%
people to buy what
they\'re selling.

00:36:45.140 --> 00:36:46.820 align:middle line:84%
And that\'s going
to take a lot.

00:36:46.820 --> 00:36:49.380 align:middle line:84%
As the delegates filed into this
conference, there are two

00:36:49.380 --> 00:36:51.070 align:middle line:90%
groups outside demonstrating.

00:36:51.070 --> 00:36:52.830 align:middle line:84%
One might be described
as conservative,

00:36:52.830 --> 00:36:54.340 align:middle line:90%
the other as liberal.

00:36:54.340 --> 00:36:56.590 align:middle line:84%
But, ironically, they\'re united
in their viewpoint on

00:36:56.590 --> 00:36:57.510 align:middle line:90%
this conference.

00:36:57.510 --> 00:37:00.040 align:middle line:84%
They both see it as an
attack on the family.

00:37:00.040 --> 00:37:03.190 align:middle line:84%
We are here to discuss
the family.

00:37:03.190 --> 00:37:05.410 align:middle line:84%
And I don\'t think that we
should get involved in

00:37:05.410 --> 00:37:08.330 align:middle line:84%
discussions without first
defining what the family is.

00:37:08.330 --> 00:37:14.030 align:middle line:84%
The first hurdle they came to
was that they could not decide

00:37:14.030 --> 00:37:16.410 align:middle line:90%
on what a family was.

00:37:16.410 --> 00:37:19.130 align:middle line:84%
They were politically correct
years before their time.

00:37:19.130 --> 00:37:22.380 align:middle line:84%
And they could not agree on a
definition of the family.

00:37:22.380 --> 00:37:24.370 align:middle line:84%
So the first thing they did
was change the name of the

00:37:24.370 --> 00:37:27.430 align:middle line:84%
conference from White House
Conference on the Family to

00:37:27.430 --> 00:37:29.370 align:middle line:84%
White House Conference
on Families.

00:37:29.370 --> 00:37:31.940 align:middle line:84%
Why would it be so hard for the
White House Conference to

00:37:31.940 --> 00:37:33.750 align:middle line:84%
say families are people
related by blood,

00:37:33.750 --> 00:37:34.910 align:middle line:90%
marriage, or adoption?

00:37:34.910 --> 00:37:37.280 align:middle line:84%
Why would it be so hard
for them to do that?

00:37:37.280 --> 00:37:39.290 align:middle line:84%
The only reason it would be so
hard for them to do that is

00:37:39.290 --> 00:37:41.320 align:middle line:84%
that they want families
to be other things.

00:37:41.320 --> 00:37:44.410 align:middle line:84%
They want homosexuals to be able
to be considered families

00:37:44.410 --> 00:37:47.420 align:middle line:84%
or ad hoc communes or Jim Jones
type of situations or

00:37:47.420 --> 00:37:48.770 align:middle line:90%
Manson families.

00:37:48.770 --> 00:37:50.410 align:middle line:90%
That\'s the danger, of course.

00:37:50.410 --> 00:37:51.830 align:middle line:90%
That\'s the greatest danger.

00:37:51.830 --> 00:37:54.430 align:middle line:84%
But the legitimization of
illegitimate lifestyles, such

00:37:54.430 --> 00:37:57.435 align:middle line:84%
as homosexuality, is really the
root of the definition of

00:37:57.435 --> 00:38:00.670 align:middle line:84%
the family question and the fact
that the White House does

00:38:00.670 --> 00:38:02.700 align:middle line:90%
not want to deal with that.

00:38:02.700 --> 00:38:06.390 align:middle line:84%
As far as I know about the
history of our country and all

00:38:06.390 --> 00:38:08.620 align:middle line:84%
the other countries, there
have been single parents.

00:38:08.620 --> 00:38:10.805 align:middle line:84%
And I would like to ask the
professional lady who just

00:38:10.805 --> 00:38:13.640 align:middle line:84%
spoke, since when have we
not been considered

00:38:13.640 --> 00:38:15.530 align:middle line:90%
a traditional family?

00:38:15.530 --> 00:38:16.610 align:middle line:90%
I am a family.

00:38:16.610 --> 00:38:17.900 align:middle line:90%
We are all families.

00:38:17.900 --> 00:38:21.510 align:middle line:84%
And I\'d like to know what
I am if I\'m not a

00:38:21.510 --> 00:38:23.380 align:middle line:90%
family with my child.

00:38:23.380 --> 00:38:27.310 align:middle line:84%
It was almost beyond me and
I\'d not been into that

00:38:27.310 --> 00:38:28.950 align:middle line:90%
controversy before.

00:38:28.950 --> 00:38:33.020 align:middle line:84%
And as I got into it, it came to
me kind of-- my sense of it

00:38:33.020 --> 00:38:36.270 align:middle line:84%
was kind of unrealistic that
this narrow, confined

00:38:36.270 --> 00:38:39.300 align:middle line:84%
definition of family when you
look at the reality of what

00:38:39.300 --> 00:38:40.600 align:middle line:90%
America is.

00:38:40.600 --> 00:38:46.310 align:middle line:84%
Well, I think from the beginning
of time, a family

00:38:46.310 --> 00:38:50.790 align:middle line:84%
has been looked at as a mom
and dad and children with

00:38:50.790 --> 00:38:52.620 align:middle line:90%
marriage bonds.

00:38:52.620 --> 00:38:56.880 align:middle line:84%
Now I\'m aware that there are a
lot of differences even in

00:38:56.880 --> 00:39:02.120 align:middle line:84%
various cultures and societies
around the world.

00:39:02.120 --> 00:39:06.080 align:middle line:84%
Of course, I feel like God has
ordained this family unit as

00:39:06.080 --> 00:39:08.870 align:middle line:90%
his pattern.

00:39:08.870 --> 00:39:13.480 align:middle line:84%
I\'m married with five children
and I guess I feel very

00:39:13.480 --> 00:39:16.540 align:middle line:84%
vulnerable right now because I
believe I\'m in a minority, at

00:39:16.540 --> 00:39:18.300 align:middle line:90%
least in this conference.

00:39:18.300 --> 00:39:20.980 align:middle line:84%
But I don\'t believe that
I am in a minority in

00:39:20.980 --> 00:39:22.240 align:middle line:90%
terms of the country.

00:39:22.240 --> 00:39:27.410 align:middle line:84%
Ladies and gentlemen, what
decides life or death anywhere

00:39:27.410 --> 00:39:32.270 align:middle line:84%
in the last 5,000 years is not
a Gallup poll or is not a

00:39:32.270 --> 00:39:36.830 align:middle line:84%
counting up of numbers,
life comes from God--

00:39:36.830 --> 00:39:39.340 align:middle line:90%
I am anti-war.

00:39:39.340 --> 00:39:42.970 align:middle line:90%
I am anti-capital punishment.

00:39:42.970 --> 00:39:46.340 align:middle line:90%
I am anti-murder.

00:39:46.340 --> 00:39:50.130 align:middle line:84%
And I am also anti-murder
of unborn children.

00:39:50.130 --> 00:39:52.830 align:middle line:84%
I am very much opposed to the
Equal Rights Amendment, very

00:39:52.830 --> 00:39:56.450 align:middle line:84%
much opposed to abortion, very
much opposed to the homosexual

00:39:56.450 --> 00:39:59.422 align:middle line:90%
issues that are here.

00:39:59.422 --> 00:40:02.460 align:middle line:84%
Mary said I\'m a mother with
children and what are these

00:40:02.460 --> 00:40:03.832 align:middle line:90%
people talking about?

00:40:03.832 --> 00:40:05.080 align:middle line:90%
Yeah, yeah.

00:40:05.080 --> 00:40:11.440 align:middle line:84%
I guess one of my real concerns
was that I really

00:40:11.440 --> 00:40:14.290 align:middle line:84%
thought that we were there to
look at all of the issues that

00:40:14.290 --> 00:40:16.050 align:middle line:90%
affected families.

00:40:16.050 --> 00:40:21.390 align:middle line:84%
And I had short patience with
people who wanted to make it

00:40:21.390 --> 00:40:23.460 align:middle line:84%
single issue, whatever
the issue was.

00:40:23.460 --> 00:40:29.180 align:middle line:84%
And so when we were to say, but
wait a minute, we\'ve got

00:40:29.180 --> 00:40:32.450 align:middle line:84%
male children who are in school
and can\'t get a decent

00:40:32.450 --> 00:40:35.820 align:middle line:84%
education and so we need to talk
about this thing about

00:40:35.820 --> 00:40:38.620 align:middle line:84%
education, and then here they
are saying, but, no, no, no.

00:40:38.620 --> 00:40:39.870 align:middle line:84%
We don\'t need to
deal with that.

00:40:39.870 --> 00:40:42.020 align:middle line:84%
We need to deal with
other things.

00:40:42.020 --> 00:40:46.090 align:middle line:84%
And I\'m supposed to go against
the interest of my people and

00:40:46.090 --> 00:40:50.240 align:middle line:84%
the interest of people in my
family or my own child?

00:40:50.240 --> 00:40:53.420 align:middle line:84%
I\'m supposed to go against that
simply because you say

00:40:53.420 --> 00:40:54.930 align:middle line:90%
this is the agenda?

00:40:54.930 --> 00:40:58.200 align:middle line:84%
I\'m strongly opposed
to abortion.

00:40:58.200 --> 00:41:02.440 align:middle line:84%
I\'ve worked on pro-life issues,
have all my life.

00:41:02.440 --> 00:41:06.570 align:middle line:84%
But my role in the conference
was not to make sure that my

00:41:06.570 --> 00:41:10.970 align:middle line:84%
position on that came out, but
to make sure that, in the

00:41:10.970 --> 00:41:13.695 align:middle line:84%
discussion, in the decisions of
the conference, people had

00:41:13.695 --> 00:41:15.000 align:middle line:90%
a fair shake.

00:41:15.000 --> 00:41:18.530 align:middle line:84%
My experience was that the vast
majority of people who

00:41:18.530 --> 00:41:21.890 align:middle line:84%
participated in this process
were trying to find the common

00:41:21.890 --> 00:41:24.380 align:middle line:84%
ground and trying to build
bridges and were really

00:41:24.380 --> 00:41:28.290 align:middle line:84%
pleased and satisfied that
despite the enormous diversity

00:41:28.290 --> 00:41:32.020 align:middle line:84%
and differences of opinion,
that on a whole range of

00:41:32.020 --> 00:41:35.620 align:middle line:84%
important concerns for families,
they did find common

00:41:35.620 --> 00:41:39.070 align:middle line:84%
ground on issues that crossed
the liberal, conservative,

00:41:39.070 --> 00:41:41.340 align:middle line:90%
Democrat and Republican lines.

00:41:41.340 --> 00:41:43.730 align:middle line:84%
Nevertheless, the so-called pro
family group claims the

00:41:43.730 --> 00:41:46.280 align:middle line:84%
conference is rigged and being
used to help re-elect

00:41:46.280 --> 00:41:48.020 align:middle line:84%
President Carter by
making him appear

00:41:48.020 --> 00:41:49.600 align:middle line:90%
concerned about the family.

00:41:49.600 --> 00:41:52.780 align:middle line:84%
But what they seek to avoid are
the controversial issues.

00:41:52.780 --> 00:41:55.400 align:middle line:84%
They don\'t want debate
on right to life.

00:41:55.400 --> 00:41:57.680 align:middle line:84%
They don\'t want debate on
homosexuality and other

00:41:57.680 --> 00:41:59.730 align:middle line:84%
things, which we make the
definition of the family,

00:41:59.730 --> 00:42:03.970 align:middle line:84%
which we think are key to
whether this conference really

00:42:03.970 --> 00:42:07.627 align:middle line:84%
faces the questions on
the family or not.

00:42:07.627 --> 00:42:10.062 align:middle line:90%
[INAUDIBLE]

00:42:10.062 --> 00:42:13.958 align:middle line:84%
has the job of defining the
definition of family.

00:42:13.958 --> 00:42:15.150 align:middle line:84%
And you will have a
chance to get into

00:42:15.150 --> 00:42:17.420 align:middle line:90%
that dialogue tomorrow.

00:42:17.420 --> 00:42:19.410 align:middle line:84%
They had professional
facilitators.

00:42:19.410 --> 00:42:21.700 align:middle line:84%
Well, the job of the
professional facilitator is to

00:42:21.700 --> 00:42:26.300 align:middle line:84%
keep anything off the blackboard
that doesn\'t fit.

00:42:26.300 --> 00:42:28.810 align:middle line:84%
They be talking about women
and child health.

00:42:28.810 --> 00:42:29.830 align:middle line:84%
And somebody would
get up and say,

00:42:29.830 --> 00:42:30.830 align:middle line:90%
well, what about abortion?

00:42:30.830 --> 00:42:33.280 align:middle line:84%
Oh, that\'s not that we\'re
talking about here.

00:42:33.280 --> 00:42:35.360 align:middle line:90%
That\'s not an issue.

00:42:35.360 --> 00:42:39.280 align:middle line:84%
And so after a day of that, it
was very clear that our issues

00:42:39.280 --> 00:42:41.310 align:middle line:84%
were never going to see
the light of day.

00:42:41.310 --> 00:42:43.140 align:middle line:84%
They were never going to get
out of that first level

00:42:43.140 --> 00:42:45.470 align:middle line:84%
workshop up to the second
level workshop.

00:42:45.470 --> 00:42:47.350 align:middle line:84%
And if they didn\'t make it to
the second level workshop,

00:42:47.350 --> 00:42:49.200 align:middle line:84%
they were never going to make
it to the full group.

00:42:49.200 --> 00:42:51.020 align:middle line:84%
That\'s the rules of
the conference.

00:42:51.020 --> 00:42:52.490 align:middle line:90%
I didn\'t read that in my--

00:42:52.490 --> 00:42:52.820 align:middle line:90%
That is the rule.

00:42:52.820 --> 00:42:55.150 align:middle line:84%
Group seven will deal
with the definition.

00:42:55.150 --> 00:42:57.450 align:middle line:90%
Now, If I could go on.

00:42:57.450 --> 00:43:00.320 align:middle line:84%
It was becoming more and more
evident to everyone in their

00:43:00.320 --> 00:43:04.230 align:middle line:84%
session that what they had
presented as what we had

00:43:04.230 --> 00:43:08.640 align:middle line:84%
decided and determined in
Virginia was not being

00:43:08.640 --> 00:43:11.380 align:middle line:90%
reported as it was.

00:43:11.380 --> 00:43:16.610 align:middle line:84%
It had been changed kind of
back to fit, I guess,

00:43:16.610 --> 00:43:19.070 align:middle line:84%
President Carter\'s criteria
for what the White House

00:43:19.070 --> 00:43:21.230 align:middle line:84%
Conference on family
was going to be.

00:43:21.230 --> 00:43:27.070 align:middle line:84%
We had a president who initiated
this conference, who

00:43:27.070 --> 00:43:32.000 align:middle line:84%
used the term born again, who
said he was born again, and

00:43:32.000 --> 00:43:35.080 align:middle line:84%
yet we had that whole
world that was kind

00:43:35.080 --> 00:43:35.980 align:middle line:90%
of being left out.

00:43:35.980 --> 00:43:38.830 align:middle line:84%
So there was a real kind
of consternation.

00:43:38.830 --> 00:43:42.480 align:middle line:84%
Now, had it been a president
that wasn\'t familiar at all

00:43:42.480 --> 00:43:46.250 align:middle line:84%
with people in that world, it
might have been a little

00:43:46.250 --> 00:43:47.720 align:middle line:90%
different response.

00:43:47.720 --> 00:43:53.510 align:middle line:84%
You began to see very quickly
coalitions taking shape and

00:43:53.510 --> 00:43:56.840 align:middle line:84%
rump meetings and side meetings
and finding myself

00:43:56.840 --> 00:43:58.810 align:middle line:84%
actually caught up
in that process.

00:43:58.810 --> 00:44:01.890 align:middle line:84%
The purpose of this conference
was not to exclude people.

00:44:01.890 --> 00:44:03.330 align:middle line:90%
It was to include people.

00:44:03.330 --> 00:44:08.450 align:middle line:84%
It was to take a look at how we
can possibly come up with a

00:44:08.450 --> 00:44:12.190 align:middle line:84%
pattern or a definition of
family that includes everybody

00:44:12.190 --> 00:44:13.660 align:middle line:90%
that has needs in America.

00:44:13.660 --> 00:44:18.010 align:middle line:84%
When someone would say something
clearly insulting to

00:44:18.010 --> 00:44:23.130 align:middle line:84%
gay and lesbian people, it was
is if I had no right in my own

00:44:23.130 --> 00:44:26.280 align:middle line:84%
country to be recognized
as a family.

00:44:26.280 --> 00:44:34.260 align:middle line:84%
I\'m embarrassed to say,
but I reacted.

00:44:34.260 --> 00:44:36.040 align:middle line:90%
I did take that personally.

00:44:36.040 --> 00:44:38.300 align:middle line:90%
And I got mad at it.

00:44:38.300 --> 00:44:47.370 align:middle line:84%
And I didn\'t make sure that I
kept my respect in place for

00:44:47.370 --> 00:44:50.100 align:middle line:84%
their right to speak
as well as mine.

00:44:50.100 --> 00:44:53.460 align:middle line:84%
And, frankly, I wish they
would\'ve shut up.

00:44:53.460 --> 00:44:54.330 align:middle line:90%
Do you know what I mean?

00:44:54.330 --> 00:44:56.550 align:middle line:84%
When we got here we found that
not only were we not allowed

00:44:56.550 --> 00:44:59.640 align:middle line:84%
to discuss those issues at all,
that the definition of

00:44:59.640 --> 00:45:02.350 align:middle line:84%
family was ruled non germane,
out of order in every work

00:45:02.350 --> 00:45:03.540 align:middle line:90%
group except one--

00:45:03.540 --> 00:45:05.760 align:middle line:84%
most of the facilitators said
that we\'re not going to talk

00:45:05.760 --> 00:45:07.660 align:middle line:84%
about the definition of family
in this work group.

00:45:07.660 --> 00:45:09.760 align:middle line:84%
That\'s going to come in work
group number seven.

00:45:09.760 --> 00:45:11.410 align:middle line:84%
Well, the people in work group
number seven didn\'t get a

00:45:11.410 --> 00:45:13.640 align:middle line:84%
definition of the family out
of that work either.

00:45:13.640 --> 00:45:15.590 align:middle line:84%
That means that issue
has been killed.

00:45:15.590 --> 00:45:19.020 align:middle line:84%
There was no choice of what to
do but to withdraw, to walk

00:45:19.020 --> 00:45:23.030 align:middle line:84%
out of it because had we stayed
in and continued to be

00:45:23.030 --> 00:45:26.080 align:middle line:84%
part of that process, the
conclusions of which were

00:45:26.080 --> 00:45:30.490 align:middle line:84%
foregone against us, we would
have been giving legitimacy to

00:45:30.490 --> 00:45:31.660 align:middle line:90%
their process.

00:45:31.660 --> 00:45:36.380 align:middle line:84%
I was invited to a meeting
previous to that where they

00:45:36.380 --> 00:45:38.810 align:middle line:90%
were strategising.

00:45:38.810 --> 00:45:42.500 align:middle line:84%
And I said that I wasn\'t
going to walk out.

00:45:42.500 --> 00:45:46.570 align:middle line:84%
And my very good friend from
then until now, that was about

00:45:46.570 --> 00:45:50.850 align:middle line:84%
the first time I had met her,
Connie Marshner, said, no, we

00:45:50.850 --> 00:45:51.780 align:middle line:90%
have to walk out.

00:45:51.780 --> 00:45:53.260 align:middle line:84%
We\'re not going to change
anything here.

00:45:53.260 --> 00:45:55.470 align:middle line:90%
We\'re too small a group.

00:45:55.470 --> 00:45:56.690 align:middle line:90%
This place is stacked.

00:45:56.690 --> 00:46:01.960 align:middle line:90%
I forget, 2000 delegates.

00:46:01.960 --> 00:46:02.840 align:middle line:90%
And I didn\'t agree.

00:46:02.840 --> 00:46:05.210 align:middle line:84%
And that was a very
uncomfortable feeling.

00:46:05.210 --> 00:46:13.800 align:middle line:84%
It was just such an unwinnable
situation that I was very much

00:46:13.800 --> 00:46:15.320 align:middle line:90%
in agreement with the others.

00:46:15.320 --> 00:46:20.205 align:middle line:84%
And many of the others and the
leadership and all probably

00:46:20.205 --> 00:46:22.820 align:middle line:84%
knew more than I did, I \'m sure,
about what maybe could

00:46:22.820 --> 00:46:25.050 align:middle line:84%
even be accomplished
through this.

00:46:25.050 --> 00:46:26.330 align:middle line:84%
But they felt nothing
was going to be

00:46:26.330 --> 00:46:27.380 align:middle line:90%
accomplished anyway.

00:46:27.380 --> 00:46:29.500 align:middle line:90%
So it was futile.

00:46:29.500 --> 00:46:31.310 align:middle line:90%
Well, clearly wasn\'t the case.

00:46:31.310 --> 00:46:34.490 align:middle line:84%
I mean, their point of view
wasn\'t excluded because we

00:46:34.490 --> 00:46:36.290 align:middle line:84%
helped ensure it
would be there.

00:46:36.290 --> 00:46:39.230 align:middle line:84%
In fact, Connie Marshner was
selected by us to make sure

00:46:39.230 --> 00:46:41.440 align:middle line:90%
those voices were heard.

00:46:41.440 --> 00:46:46.530 align:middle line:84%
Their message, in part, was if
we don\'t prevail, we\'re going

00:46:46.530 --> 00:46:47.720 align:middle line:90%
to take on the process.

00:46:47.720 --> 00:46:51.380 align:middle line:84%
I remember reading in one
newspaper a woman who headed

00:46:51.380 --> 00:46:55.840 align:middle line:84%
the so-called pro family group
in Tennessee, said look--

00:46:55.840 --> 00:46:57.990 align:middle line:84%
and I think this is
a direct quote--

00:46:57.990 --> 00:46:59.500 align:middle line:84%
says I\'m going to try
and win all the

00:46:59.500 --> 00:47:01.590 align:middle line:90%
delegates in Tennessee.

00:47:01.590 --> 00:47:04.060 align:middle line:84%
And if I don\'t win all the
delegates, I\'m going to put

00:47:04.060 --> 00:47:06.720 align:middle line:84%
out a press release saying
the process was stacked.

00:47:06.720 --> 00:47:09.530 align:middle line:84%
In the midst of one of the final
assemblies where various

00:47:09.530 --> 00:47:11.900 align:middle line:84%
health and family planning
services were being

00:47:11.900 --> 00:47:15.900 align:middle line:84%
considered, some 80 delegates
staged a march to the stage,

00:47:15.900 --> 00:47:17.530 align:middle line:90%
tearing up their ballots.

00:47:17.530 --> 00:47:21.270 align:middle line:84%
Connie Marshner and 30 to 80
of her coalition left the

00:47:21.270 --> 00:47:23.410 align:middle line:84%
meeting claiming the procedures
and delegate

00:47:23.410 --> 00:47:26.630 align:middle line:84%
selection and agenda had been
rigged against them.

00:47:26.630 --> 00:47:29.930 align:middle line:84%
Are you saying that this whole
conference is a much more

00:47:29.930 --> 00:47:32.540 align:middle line:90%
liberal stacked deck?

00:47:32.540 --> 00:47:33.410 align:middle line:90%
Absolutely.

00:47:33.410 --> 00:47:34.620 align:middle line:90%
You got it.

00:47:34.620 --> 00:47:35.265 align:middle line:90%
You got it.

00:47:35.265 --> 00:47:40.290 align:middle line:84%
The hot button issue that put
together abortion, ERA, and

00:47:40.290 --> 00:47:43.340 align:middle line:84%
the only time, I believe, gay
rights was ever mentioned in

00:47:43.340 --> 00:47:45.910 align:middle line:84%
the White House Conference on
Families in a resolution,

00:47:45.910 --> 00:47:49.530 align:middle line:84%
passed by one vote the day after
40 people who said they

00:47:49.530 --> 00:47:52.360 align:middle line:84%
were opposed to those
things walked out.

00:47:52.360 --> 00:47:56.640 align:middle line:84%
So it was their tactics that,
in a way, got ahead of their

00:47:56.640 --> 00:47:57.460 align:middle line:90%
principles.

00:47:57.460 --> 00:48:00.120 align:middle line:84%
And there were a couple people
there who said, wait a minute,

00:48:00.120 --> 00:48:02.390 align:middle line:84%
you don\'t want to discredit
the whole process.

00:48:02.390 --> 00:48:04.250 align:middle line:84%
You don\'t want to
discredit it.

00:48:04.250 --> 00:48:05.890 align:middle line:90%
And I said, why not?

00:48:05.890 --> 00:48:07.390 align:middle line:90%
Why not?

00:48:07.390 --> 00:48:11.160 align:middle line:84%
The fact is the conference is
so controversial that it

00:48:11.160 --> 00:48:14.410 align:middle line:84%
spawned an opposition group
called the Pro Family

00:48:14.410 --> 00:48:15.480 align:middle line:90%
Conference.

00:48:15.480 --> 00:48:17.200 align:middle line:84%
The leaders of these
organizations are in

00:48:17.200 --> 00:48:20.700 align:middle line:84%
Washington this morning with
Carol Simpson who is there not

00:48:20.700 --> 00:48:23.430 align:middle line:84%
just to moderate, but
to referee as well.

00:48:23.430 --> 00:48:24.490 align:middle line:90%
I hope not, Tom.

00:48:24.490 --> 00:48:25.930 align:middle line:90%
Thank you and good morning.

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With me are Jim Guy Tucker, who
is chairman of the White

00:48:29.030 --> 00:48:32.330 align:middle line:84%
House Conference on Families,
and Mrs. Connie Marshner, who

00:48:32.330 --> 00:48:35.820 align:middle line:84%
is chairman of the National
Pro Family Coalition.

00:48:35.820 --> 00:48:38.420 align:middle line:84%
Mr. Tucker, the White House
conference has completed three

00:48:38.420 --> 00:48:41.320 align:middle line:84%
regional hearings around the
country, and now you have a

00:48:41.320 --> 00:48:43.140 align:middle line:90%
series of recommendations.

00:48:43.140 --> 00:48:45.340 align:middle line:84%
Could you tell us what some of
those are that you\'ll be

00:48:45.340 --> 00:48:46.560 align:middle line:90%
proposing to the government?

00:48:46.560 --> 00:48:48.350 align:middle line:90%
Well, we didn\'t propose them.

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In fact, we had delegates
propose them who came from all

00:48:51.800 --> 00:48:54.270 align:middle line:84%
over the country at three
conferences where they

00:48:54.270 --> 00:48:58.660 align:middle line:84%
debated, sometimes fought, and
usually agreed on major issues

00:48:58.660 --> 00:49:00.570 align:middle line:90%
facing American families.

00:49:00.570 --> 00:49:04.020 align:middle line:84%
The top issue in terms yes vote
getters dealt not with

00:49:04.020 --> 00:49:06.990 align:middle line:84%
government but with problems in
private industry, need for

00:49:06.990 --> 00:49:11.590 align:middle line:84%
flexi-time, job sharing, day
care, the problems of women

00:49:11.590 --> 00:49:13.180 align:middle line:90%
entering into the workforce.

00:49:13.180 --> 00:49:16.720 align:middle line:84%
Mr. Tucker didn\'t mention the
things like the demands for

00:49:16.720 --> 00:49:19.910 align:middle line:84%
federal financing of abortion
and guaranteed annual income

00:49:19.910 --> 00:49:22.510 align:middle line:84%
and federal funding of child
care and various issues like

00:49:22.510 --> 00:49:24.670 align:middle line:84%
that, which were also
recommended by all three

00:49:24.670 --> 00:49:25.670 align:middle line:90%
conferences.

00:49:25.670 --> 00:49:27.720 align:middle line:84%
He doesn\'t like to talk about
those because those reveal the

00:49:27.720 --> 00:49:30.080 align:middle line:84%
conference for what it was,
namely, an attempt to

00:49:30.080 --> 00:49:33.380 align:middle line:84%
resurrect a political carcass, a
liberal agenda that has been

00:49:33.380 --> 00:49:36.600 align:middle line:84%
rejected by the voters and by
Congress for 20 years in an

00:49:36.600 --> 00:49:40.390 align:middle line:84%
attempt to resuscitate it and
wrap it in the flag of family

00:49:40.390 --> 00:49:41.750 align:middle line:90%
and call it legitimate.

00:49:41.750 --> 00:49:43.410 align:middle line:84%
What is your reaction to
what she\'s saying.

00:49:43.410 --> 00:49:46.330 align:middle line:84%
Well, Connie, in my judgment,
has a vested interest in

00:49:46.330 --> 00:49:49.060 align:middle line:84%
dealing with polarization and
that\'s her view point.

00:49:49.060 --> 00:49:50.620 align:middle line:84%
Well, I object to
that, Jim Guy.

00:49:50.620 --> 00:49:52.420 align:middle line:84%
I think that\'s rather sort of
trying to con the audience a

00:49:52.420 --> 00:49:53.140 align:middle line:90%
little bit, don\'t you think?

00:49:53.140 --> 00:49:56.050 align:middle line:84%
Well, that\'s your
press release.

00:49:56.050 --> 00:49:59.030 align:middle line:84%
We feel that Jim Guy, I think,
the White House Conference

00:49:59.030 --> 00:50:01.240 align:middle line:84%
would feel that the government
can help people solve their

00:50:01.240 --> 00:50:03.550 align:middle line:84%
problems and that professionals
and human

00:50:03.550 --> 00:50:05.570 align:middle line:84%
service professionals know
better than families how to

00:50:05.570 --> 00:50:06.810 align:middle line:90%
solve their problems--

00:50:06.810 --> 00:50:09.620 align:middle line:84%
I\'m so terribly sorry
to cut this off.

00:50:09.620 --> 00:50:11.320 align:middle line:84%
Looks like we could go
on for some time.

00:50:11.320 --> 00:50:13.890 align:middle line:84%
But thank you very much and
we\'ll be looking forward to

00:50:13.890 --> 00:50:16.210 align:middle line:84%
your recommendations
and yours as well.

00:50:16.210 --> 00:50:18.065 align:middle line:84%
Now back to Tom Brokaw
in New York.

00:50:18.065 --> 00:50:18.930 align:middle line:90%
Thanks, Carol.

00:50:18.930 --> 00:50:20.650 align:middle line:84%
Nothing escapes controversy
these days it turns out, not

00:50:20.650 --> 00:50:22.030 align:middle line:90%
even the American family.

00:50:22.030 --> 00:50:25.410 align:middle line:84%
The reality here is the
definition of news is conflict

00:50:25.410 --> 00:50:26.600 align:middle line:90%
and controversy.

00:50:26.600 --> 00:50:30.020 align:middle line:84%
The fact that people from many
walks of life and different

00:50:30.020 --> 00:50:33.190 align:middle line:84%
ideological and political
perspectives can come together

00:50:33.190 --> 00:50:38.350 align:middle line:84%
and agree on an agenda for
American families is sort of a

00:50:38.350 --> 00:50:39.740 align:middle line:90%
middle of the paper story.

00:50:39.740 --> 00:50:43.780 align:middle line:84%
The fact that people are
disputing each other horribly

00:50:43.780 --> 00:50:47.340 align:middle line:84%
on abortion and homosexuality,
no, that\'s news.

00:50:47.340 --> 00:50:48.950 align:middle line:84%
In fact, that is what has
happened to the White House

00:50:48.950 --> 00:50:49.860 align:middle line:90%
Conference.

00:50:49.860 --> 00:50:52.240 align:middle line:84%
And you can probably find a
copy of the White House

00:50:52.240 --> 00:50:53.960 align:middle line:90%
Conference report.

00:50:53.960 --> 00:50:55.680 align:middle line:84%
I got one on my shelf in there
if you need to see one.

00:50:55.680 --> 00:50:57.350 align:middle line:84%
But you\'re not going to find
them anywhere else.

00:50:57.350 --> 00:51:01.010 align:middle line:84%
And it\'s not going to be cited
as a seminal document in the

00:51:01.010 --> 00:51:03.320 align:middle line:84%
development of family policy
in this country.

00:51:03.320 --> 00:51:08.010 align:middle line:84%
Every family is different,
unique.

00:51:08.010 --> 00:51:10.070 align:middle line:84%
If I ever doubt that, I have
to look at my own family.

00:51:10.070 --> 00:51:13.010 align:middle line:90%

00:51:13.010 --> 00:51:17.530 align:middle line:84%
Early in 1976 there had been
some stories around town, all

00:51:17.530 --> 00:51:20.430 align:middle line:84%
false, of course, that my
brother Billy was something of

00:51:20.430 --> 00:51:21.610 align:middle line:84%
a character and they
were trying to

00:51:21.610 --> 00:51:23.350 align:middle line:90%
probe what Billy was.

00:51:23.350 --> 00:51:25.030 align:middle line:90%
And he said, listen.

00:51:25.030 --> 00:51:27.380 align:middle line:84%
He said, I\'ve got one sister
almost 50 years old who spends

00:51:27.380 --> 00:51:29.860 align:middle line:90%
every weekend on a motorcycle.

00:51:29.860 --> 00:51:32.280 align:middle line:84%
He said, I\'ve got another sister
not quite so old who\'s

00:51:32.280 --> 00:51:33.926 align:middle line:90%
a holy roller preacher.

00:51:33.926 --> 00:51:35.680 align:middle line:84%
He said, I\'vr got a mother that
joined the Peace Corps

00:51:35.680 --> 00:51:38.140 align:middle line:90%
when she\'s 68 years old.

00:51:38.140 --> 00:51:39.880 align:middle line:84%
He said, I\'ve got a brother that
thinks he\'s going to be

00:51:39.880 --> 00:51:42.770 align:middle line:84%
president of the
United States.

00:51:42.770 --> 00:51:46.850 align:middle line:84%
He said, I\'m the only sane
one in the whole family.

00:51:46.850 --> 00:51:53.490 align:middle line:84%
What he intended for good
was turned against him.

00:51:53.490 --> 00:51:57.800 align:middle line:84%
And the very people that he
invited or through him we

00:51:57.800 --> 00:52:01.160 align:middle line:84%
invited to come and help with
the conference pulled out

00:52:01.160 --> 00:52:04.790 align:middle line:84%
their long knives and began
to slash at him and the

00:52:04.790 --> 00:52:05.650 align:middle line:90%
conference.

00:52:05.650 --> 00:52:12.000 align:middle line:84%
My political naivete, pretty
well shot right there if I

00:52:12.000 --> 00:52:15.050 align:middle line:84%
thought people of faith just sat
down and worked out their

00:52:15.050 --> 00:52:18.360 align:middle line:84%
differences for the common good,
pretty well blew it out

00:52:18.360 --> 00:52:19.180 align:middle line:90%
of the water.

00:52:19.180 --> 00:52:23.120 align:middle line:84%
The White House Conference was
a very good training ground

00:52:23.120 --> 00:52:26.970 align:middle line:84%
because it got our people
involved in a process that

00:52:26.970 --> 00:52:29.160 align:middle line:84%
they hadn\'t been involved
in before.

00:52:29.160 --> 00:52:31.540 align:middle line:84%
But they also had a
clear look at the

00:52:31.540 --> 00:52:32.720 align:middle line:90%
results of that process.

00:52:32.720 --> 00:52:35.190 align:middle line:84%
And they realized, wait a
minute, we can\'t play by the

00:52:35.190 --> 00:52:35.950 align:middle line:90%
old rules anymore.

00:52:35.950 --> 00:52:38.520 align:middle line:84%
We\'ve got to get onto a playing
field where we help

00:52:38.520 --> 00:52:39.410 align:middle line:90%
write the rules.

00:52:39.410 --> 00:52:44.690 align:middle line:84%
In the broader scale of the
political world, sometimes to

00:52:44.690 --> 00:52:48.900 align:middle line:84%
mobilize people you have
to do things that

00:52:48.900 --> 00:52:51.180 align:middle line:90%
will mobilize people.

00:52:51.180 --> 00:52:58.450 align:middle line:84%
And conservative stage walk
out was front page news.

00:52:58.450 --> 00:53:04.520 align:middle line:84%
And it woke people up all across
the country to what was

00:53:04.520 --> 00:53:07.710 align:middle line:84%
going on from their
perspective.

00:53:07.710 --> 00:53:15.020 align:middle line:84%
And so from that standpoint,
sure, we may have lost a vote

00:53:15.020 --> 00:53:17.530 align:middle line:84%
by one or two votes
in the short run.

00:53:17.530 --> 00:53:20.210 align:middle line:84%
But from their perspective,
which was much more

00:53:20.210 --> 00:53:23.650 align:middle line:84%
politically seasoned than
myself, they may have won the

00:53:23.650 --> 00:53:26.340 align:middle line:90%
war down the road.

00:53:26.340 --> 00:53:30.150 align:middle line:84%
While one may disagree with
them philosophically and

00:53:30.150 --> 00:53:35.270 align:middle line:84%
politically as I do on many
issues, one has to admire

00:53:35.270 --> 00:53:38.410 align:middle line:84%
their sense of energy, their
sense of organization, their

00:53:38.410 --> 00:53:41.850 align:middle line:84%
sense of involvement in a
political system that has

00:53:41.850 --> 00:53:46.260 align:middle line:84%
become very staid and very
moribund with declining levels

00:53:46.260 --> 00:53:50.580 align:middle line:84%
of participation in elections,
with fewer people involved in

00:53:50.580 --> 00:53:52.500 align:middle line:90%
grassroots activities.

00:53:52.500 --> 00:53:57.240 align:middle line:84%
This energy level was really
injected around the 1980

00:53:57.240 --> 00:54:01.550 align:middle line:84%
campaign and since by the
conservative movement.

00:54:01.550 --> 00:54:05.520 align:middle line:84%
And we all made a commitment
to God that day.

00:54:05.520 --> 00:54:07.870 align:middle line:84%
For the first time in our lives
we were going to get

00:54:07.870 --> 00:54:11.210 align:middle line:84%
involved in the political
process and do everything we

00:54:11.210 --> 00:54:13.560 align:middle line:84%
could to wake up
the Christians.

00:54:13.560 --> 00:54:17.680 align:middle line:84%
So I stood there and I
prayed this prayer.

00:54:17.680 --> 00:54:21.330 align:middle line:84%
I said, oh, God, we have got
to get this man out of the

00:54:21.330 --> 00:54:24.710 align:middle line:84%
White House and get someone in
here who will be aggressive

00:54:24.710 --> 00:54:27.768 align:middle line:84%
about bringing back traditional
moral values.

00:54:27.768 --> 00:54:43.704 align:middle line:90%
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00:55:54.660 --> 00:56:00.830 align:middle line:84%
Smith Richardson Foundation,
The Rockefeller Foundation,

00:56:00.830 --> 00:56:05.010 align:middle line:84%
The Lynde and Harry Bradley
Foundation, the William H.

00:56:05.010 --> 00:56:10.870 align:middle line:84%
Donner foundation, The Nathan
Cummings Foundation, and the

00:56:10.870 --> 00:56:14.100 align:middle line:84%
John D. and Catherine T.
MacArthur Foundation.

00:56:14.100 --> 00:56:16.440 align:middle line:84%
Additional funding was provided
by the following.

00:56:16.440 --> 00:56:21.128 align:middle line:90%

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