With God On Our Side - Episode 2

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The symbiotic alliance between Billy Graham and Richard Nixon foreshadows the coming union of religion and politics. The marriage is consummated in Kanahwa County, West Virginia, where national conservative strategists help escalate a local textbook controversy into a major conflagration of jailings, bombings, and a miners' strike. Meanwhile, Watergate teaches Graham the perils of political entanglement. But from Berkeley's Jesus People to Kanahwa's fundamentalists, the die has been cast -- and the Religious Right is born.

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Main credits

Robertson, Cliff (Narrator)
Skaggs, Calvin (Producer)
Skaggs, Calvin (Director)
Taylor, David Van (Producer)

Other credits

Series producers, Calvin Skaggs and David Van Taylor; director of photography, Steve Schecter; editor, Sara Fishko; narrator, Cliff Robertson; music composed by John Morris.

MARC Record See Worldcat record

Keywords

Religious Right; President Bush; evangelical Christianity; evangelical; George W. Bush; Pat Robertson Ralph Reed; Christian Coalition; conservative ; Paul Weyrich; Reverend Jerry Falwell; Doug Wead; David Frum; Don Poage; oil-business; Bible-study; Billy Graham; Richard Nixon; video; documentary; film; Christian anti-Communism; grassroot; grassroots; Church and State ; sex education; textbook; jimmy carter; Moral Majority; Kanahwa County; West Virginia; "With God On Our Side - Episode 2"; Icarus Films; doc; religion;

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With God on Our Side was made
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for Public Broadcasting.

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Smith Richardson Foundation,
the Rockefeller Foundation,

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the Lynde and Harry Bradley
Foundation, the William H.

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Donner Foundation, the Nathan
Cummings Foundation, and the

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John D. and Catherine T.
MacArthur Foundation.

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Additional funding was provided
by the following.

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[SINGING]

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[MUSIC PLAYING]

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The annual prayer breakfast has
become almost a command

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performance in Washington.

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Sponsored by congressman who
meet weekly to pray before

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passing legislation, this year
it featured the Reverend Billy

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Graham and his favorite
president.

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In these ways in which religion
is not supposed to be

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fashionable in many quarters,
and these days when skepticism

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and even agnosticism seems to be
on the upturn, over half of

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all the letters that have come
into our office have indicated

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that people of all faiths, and
of all nations, have a very

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simple way of saying,
we are praying

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for you, Mr. President.

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We are praying for the
leadership that this nation

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may be able to provide.

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Civil religion assumes
sort of a blessing.

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You begin to merge the state
with religion in a way in

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which whatever the state does
must be justified, because

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this state is one nation
under God.

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And on our coins we say,
in God we trust.

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And assume sort of a blessing,
an approval by God Almighty.

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[SINGING]

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It was Richard Nixon who brought
religion center stage

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in American political
life for the first

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time since the 1950s.

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Nixon\'s public friendship with
America\'s best known

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evangelist was his most visible

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exercise at civil religion.

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[SINGING]

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You know, it\'s been my policy
ever since I began my ministry

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to avoid taking a partisan
political stand.

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I have close personal
friends in both

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major political parties.

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And I feel a little bit like
the Senator who was asked a

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particularly difficult question,
and he replied,

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well, some of my friend friends
are for it, and some

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of my friends are against it.

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And I\'m for my friends.

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Nixon was a shrewd politician.

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And he knew very well that
Billy Graham was a very

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influential public figure, and
much respected man in America.

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And he would call Billy
for two reasons.

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One is he was a friend.

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And he would get counsel
from him, and advice.

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But he also realized that he
was tapping into a very

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important resource, public
support resource.

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I was in Washington as the guest
of Senator Clyde Hoey of

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North Carolina.

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He took me to the Senate dining,
and introduced me to

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this young senator from
California by the name of

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Richard Nixon.

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There was something about the
friendly look of his eye and

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the clasp of his hand
that I liked.

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And that was the beginning of
one of the most cherished

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friendships that I\'ve ever
had with anyone.

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And whether we are Democrats or
Republicans politically, we

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will look to extend a warm
welcome to Mr. and Mrs.

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Richard Nixon.

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I\'m going to ask them to stand.

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[APPLAUSE]

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Shall we pray.

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Our father and our God, we
thank thee tonight for

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America, and all that
America stands for.

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We pray tonight that thou
wouldst lead the American

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people in the choice of
their leadership for

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the next four years.

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And at the men of thy choice--

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The public Nixon, the
politician, well recognized

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that there were voting blocs
that were enormously

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influenced by their
religious leaders.

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spiritual awakenings shall take
place in this country

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that could sweep the world.

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He recognized that the
evangelical vote was the key

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to the southern strategy.

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And so, we began to invite
evangelical leaders in.

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And one of my jobs in the White
House was too romance

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religious leaders.

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Instead of his going to church,
we had church services

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in the White House,
the East Room.

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It was a lovely place to have
a church service, the East

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Room, on Sunday mornings.

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And we did not do it every
Sunday, but we did frequently

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during his presidency.

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And we would invite in a leader
to give the service.

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And so, it was my job to figure
out which leaders we

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would invite that would
give us the

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greatest political advantage.

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And we would bring them
into the White House.

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And they would be dazzled by the
aura of the Oval Office.

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And I brought in a whole host of
religious leaders to preach

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worship services for the
President and his family, and

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300 guests carefully selected
by me for political reasons.

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And we turned those events into
wonderful quasi-social,

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quasi-spiritual, quasi-political
events.

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Turning the East Room into a
chapel was pretty European,

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virtually medieval.

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When we got a country and a
culture that is committed to

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government not blessing any
particular religion, or even

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specific sub-group of one
religion, I think that was

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pretty retrograde.

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What do you think of the
argument that Mr. Nixon should

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not use the White House for
those Sunday morning kind of

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religious services?

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He wanted to have something
different.

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He wanted to have it in the
White House that would

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symbolize the pluralistic
society in which we live, in

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which he would have perhaps a
Roman Catholic, as Cardinal

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Cook was down, or a Jew, or a
Baptist, or a Presbyterian, or

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whatever denomination
it may be.

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He invited a bunch of preachers
who would tell him

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what he wanted to hear.

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And those of us who were
protesting the war in Vietnam

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were never invited in.

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Those of us who were willing
to go to jail over issues

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weren\'t invited in.

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The profits and Christ predicted
all of these days

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that we\'re now living through.

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And said that we\'re going to
come to a point in history--

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Jesus said in the 21st chapter
of Luke, in which we would be

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pressed from all sides, and
there would be no way out,

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except one.

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And that\'s God\'s way.

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The escalating war in Vietnam
pressed the president, and the

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social fabric of the nation,
on all sides.

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Thousands of ordinary Americans
took to the streets

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to protest the war.

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The anti-war movement evolved
from the free speech movement,

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which started at the
University of

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California at Berkeley.

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We\'ll do something which
hasn\'t occurred at this

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university in a good
long time.

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We\'re going to have real
classes up there.

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They\'re going to be freedom
schools conducted up there.

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We\'ll have classes on First
and Fourteenth Amendments.

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Young Christians also felt the
surge of idealism on campus.

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In the late \'60s, they
can to Berkeley.

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I think we did sort of sense
an era that was developing.

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And we hoped that we could
ride on the front end of

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whatever was coming.

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It was a university in turmoil
at that period and time.

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And we would have conversations
concerning the

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government, concerning what
the government was doing,

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concerning the war, concerning
all those kinds of things.

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It was a passion with us.

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There\'s a place that Jesus,
in the New Testament--

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it said that the seal of thy
house is eaten me up.

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And we felt that way.

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If our world is to be changed,
it\'s going to be done at the

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university level
on the campus.

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And you guys have
got the message.

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And you\'ve got a power working
for you that is absolutely

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supernatural.

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Go out and give it to them with
everything you\'ve got.

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[MUSIC PLAYING]

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We had a slogan,
and I loved it.

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Win the campus for Christ
today, win the world for

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Christ tomorrow.

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And we believed that if we
could impact the college

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students of America with the
Gospel, we could eventually

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change society, and remake
America into a

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more Christian culture.

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Just as there are physical laws,
Linda, that govern the

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physical universe, so there are
spiritual laws that govern

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a person\'s relationship
with God.

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And this first law just states
that God loves you, and he has

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a wonderful plan
for your life.

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You know, college students
are asking, who am I?

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why am I here?

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What\'s my purpose in life?

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And it\'s those kinds of
questions that we were there

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to help them answer.

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Now interestingly, if we call
it evangelizing, all of a

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sudden everybody has a certain
picture that comes to mind.

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But yeah, in effect, we
were evangelizing.

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I believe that we need more
preaching on why a spiritual a

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revolution, and we need
teaching on it.

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The world isn\'t getting
better.

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It\'s getting worse.

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The problems aren\'t
being solved.

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They\'re becoming much
more acute.

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And there is a need
for a revolution.

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And that revolution must be
a spiritual revolution.

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And without it, we\'re through.

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I felt like I was changing
the world.

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I felt like I was
having a part.

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Campus Crusade--

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Bill Bright had written a book
in the early \'70s that was

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called Come Help Change
the World.

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And the theme that Campus
Crusade had at that time was

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change lives, change
the world.

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And, as the product of the late
\'60s and early \'70s, I

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wanted to help change
the world.

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And I felt like this was a way
to achieve lasting change that

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might be more valuable than
some of the other

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possibilities.

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[MUSIC PLAYING]

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Become a part of a different
kind of revolution--

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a spiritual revolution that
is sweeping the world.

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The apathy of the \'50s
has exploded into the

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action of the \'60s.

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[MUSIC PLAYING]

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Every person must choose whether
he will support,

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either actively or passively,
a revolution of force and

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fear, or a revolution
of love and decency.

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Are you a part of the problem,
or a part of the solution?

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Worrying about the war over
in Vietnam is not

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going to change it.

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We have got to have a change
in each one of our lives.

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The revolution starts
in your heart, baby.

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[MUSIC PLAYING]

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One of the men in Campus Crusade
who I so greatly

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admired, now also an orthodox
priest, Father Jack Sparks.

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And he said, you know, if we\'re
going to do anything to

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meet this challenge, some
of us have got to

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go and be in it.

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And in fact, Billy Graham said
this is the most effective

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work in counter-culture
of America.

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He got rid of his Brooks
Brothers suits.

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Wore blue chambray
work shirts.

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And baptized students
in the fountain

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on the mall at Berkeley.

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He became counterculture
in order to reach them.

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Would you like to be involved?

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Maybe protest is your bag.

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Well, Revolution Now tells you
how to make your life count.

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It\'s really a strategy
to change the world.

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And man, it needs changing.

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There are those who, by kindling
and giving direction

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to the flame of student
idealism, seek to overthrow

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our government.

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They predict civil war, and
upheaval such as this country

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has never seen.

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Their objective is total anarchy
and lawlessness.

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Unless we unite together,
millions of us in these

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immediate months--

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days--

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we may not have much longer.

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[CHANTING]

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Then that summer Campus
Crusade had a large,

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evangelistic conference--

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Expo \'72, in Dallas, Texas.

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They were trying to draw
100,000 people.

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[CHEERING]

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This is a Christian happening.

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It\'s a demonstration of the
love of God by tens of

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thousands of young people to the
world, that are saying to

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the world, God loves you.

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[CHEERING]

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The old time gospel is relevant
to this generation.

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[CHEERING]

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Christian youth are
now on the march.

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[CHEERING]

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The polarization on campus, and
in the nation, provoked

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the president to a
call for action.

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[CHANTING]

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Recent weeks, and recent months,
you\'ve seen in your

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television screens some of our
young people engaging in

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violence, trying to shout down
speakers, and engaging in

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activities you disapprove of.

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And some may get the impression
that that\'s a

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majority of young America.

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Or that they are the leaders
of the future.

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Well, I can assure you that I\'ve
traveled all over this

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country, and that violence
few are not the

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majority of young Americans.

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And they are not going to be
the leaders of the future.

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There was obviously a sense of
part of the American public

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having a totally different
sense of values.

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We sensed this in
the White House.

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This is what we called
Middle America,

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and the silent majority.

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It\'s time for the great, silent
majority to stand up

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and be counted.

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This is a CBS News
Special Report.

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Honor America ceremonies, live
from the grounds of the

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Lincoln Memorial, in
Washington, DC.

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We honor America because she has
never hidden her problems

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and faults.

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[CHEERING]

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We will listen.

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We listen respectfully to
those who dissent in

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accordance with constitutional
principles.

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But we strongly reject violence,
and the erosion of

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any of our liberties under the
guise of dissent that promises

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everything, but delivers
only chaos.

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As General Eisenhower once
wrote, we must never confuse

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honest dissent with disloyal
subversion.

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[MUSIC PLAYING]

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It was, I think, a culture
war brewing.

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The conflicting sides of that
culture war were beginning to

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take shape.

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The armies on either side were
beginning to form up.

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They were forming up around
religious conservatives who

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were articulating traditional
values, against cultural

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leaders and academia and the
media and elsewhere, who were

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living out, who were affirming
the values of the \'60s that

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had invaded the campuses.

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[SINGING]

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Good evening.

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Americans across the
country today

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celebrated the 4th of July.

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The largest and most publicized
celebration is in

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Washington, where thousands
gathered for the Bob

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Hope/Billy Graham Honor America
extravaganza, an event

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criticized by some as an event
to drum up support for

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President Nixon\'s Indochina
policy.

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The reason I haven\'t taken a
stand on the Vietnam War has

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nothing absolutely
to do with any

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friendship with the president.

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It\'s because I just don\'t know
the answer to this muddle and

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mess that we\'ve got
ourselves into.

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I believe personally, from my
knowledge of the president,

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that he wants to get
out of Vietnam.

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Now, how to get out is
the great question.

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But I think he\'s doing the
very best he knows now.

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Until he\'s proven wrong, I\'m
going to take the president at

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his word that he\'s not
widening the war.

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That he\'s actually trying to
shorten the war, and bring

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American troops home.

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Now if that has proven wrong six
months or a year from now,

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then I\'ll speak up about it.

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[APPLAUSE]

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As the battle over his Vietnam
policy raged on, Nixon made a

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pilgrimage to his evangelical
supporters

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in Knoxville, Tennessee.

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[CHEERING]

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President Nixon is described
today as being pleased with

00:19:54.370 --> 00:19:57.550 align:middle line:84%
the reception he got last night
in Tennessee at one of

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the Reverend Billy Graham\'s
religious rallies.

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[CHEERING]

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I saw him on television at the
Knoxville, Tennessee campaign.

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[CHEERING]

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This was prior to moral
majority in political

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involvement when it\'s
no big deal today.

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But it was a big deal then.

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And when I saw him there,
it was obvious to me--

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he\'s not attending Billy\'s
crusade to hear Billy preach.

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He\'s there because Billy
invited him there.

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And anybody with any amount of
moxie was aware that this was

00:20:42.620 --> 00:20:43.450 align:middle line:90%
tacit endorsement.

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[CHEERING]

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Ladies and gentlemen,
the President

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of the United States.

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[CHEERING]

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And when I saw him, I was amazed
that he would do that.

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[CHEERING]

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Billy Graham, when he invited
me to come here, said that

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this was to be youth night.

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He told me that there would
youth from the university,

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from other parts of the
state representing

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different points of view.

00:21:22.105 --> 00:21:26.260 align:middle line:90%

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I\'m just glad that there seems
to be rather silent majority

00:21:29.770 --> 00:21:32.370 align:middle line:84%
on one side, rather than
the other side tonight.

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[CHEERING]

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I think Billy, if he was sitting
here, would be first

00:21:39.100 --> 00:21:42.130 align:middle line:84%
to tell you that was
a major mistake in

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his ministering life.

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It was one of the Senate
Watergate Committee\'s most

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abrasive days.

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In his third--

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--last March warned Mr. Nixon of
a cancer on the presidency.

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But--

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--Committee today said his
father-in-law was the victim

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of a witch hunt.

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Tricia told reporters that she
had a sense of outrage over

00:22:00.380 --> 00:22:03.250 align:middle line:84%
those who want her
father to resign.

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Evangelist Billy Graham, long a
personal friend of President

00:22:06.480 --> 00:22:10.190 align:middle line:84%
Nixon, says he finds the White
House transcripts profoundly

00:22:10.190 --> 00:22:12.190 align:middle line:90%
disturbing and disappointing.

00:22:12.190 --> 00:22:14.620 align:middle line:84%
Graham said he has spent several
days reading the

00:22:14.620 --> 00:22:15.830 align:middle line:90%
edited transcripts.

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And quote, one cannot but
deplore the moral tone implied

00:22:19.860 --> 00:22:20.730 align:middle line:90%
in these papers.

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I think he went through some
real startling shocks.

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And that it wasn\'t pleasant or
easy for him to come out and

00:22:31.430 --> 00:22:36.290 align:middle line:84%
say, this person who is
a friend of mine--

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I think Richard Nixon
and he were close--

00:22:40.600 --> 00:22:44.280 align:middle line:84%
has done something I now see
as having been wrong.

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I\'m a strong Nixon supporter.

00:22:46.310 --> 00:22:47.960 align:middle line:90%
I\'m a conservative Republican.

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And I voted for him in \'68, and
voted for him certainly in

00:22:52.520 --> 00:22:55.030 align:middle line:90%
\'72 against McGovern.

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And I was frankly shocked.

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And I got on television,
and called on the

00:23:00.470 --> 00:23:01.960 align:middle line:90%
President to repent.

00:23:01.960 --> 00:23:04.430 align:middle line:84%
Up until the time those
transcripts were made

00:23:04.430 --> 00:23:07.830 align:middle line:84%
available, he had a solid core
of support the just didn\'t

00:23:07.830 --> 00:23:10.270 align:middle line:84%
waver didn\'t matter whether
he was involved

00:23:10.270 --> 00:23:11.420 align:middle line:90%
in an illegal break-in.

00:23:11.420 --> 00:23:14.470 align:middle line:84%
It really doesn\'t matter what
the opposition said about him.

00:23:14.470 --> 00:23:18.380 align:middle line:84%
But when that came out, a lot
of the Billy Graham-type

00:23:18.380 --> 00:23:22.040 align:middle line:84%
followers who had believed in
Nixon looked at the this and

00:23:22.040 --> 00:23:23.040 align:middle line:84%
said, wel, this isn\'t
a good man.

00:23:23.040 --> 00:23:25.590 align:middle line:84%
And they abandoned their
support for him.

00:23:25.590 --> 00:23:29.880 align:middle line:84%
I admired Richard Nixon, his
foreign policy, the things he

00:23:29.880 --> 00:23:31.010 align:middle line:90%
was doing in the country.

00:23:31.010 --> 00:23:37.210 align:middle line:84%
And then for him to lie, cheat,
and steal just was, I

00:23:37.210 --> 00:23:38.350 align:middle line:90%
think, one of the most

00:23:38.350 --> 00:23:40.240 align:middle line:90%
disillusioning times in my life.

00:23:40.240 --> 00:23:44.260 align:middle line:84%
There developed in Watergate,
in our audience, and in the

00:23:44.260 --> 00:23:48.310 align:middle line:84%
nation a very serious distrust
of government.

00:23:48.310 --> 00:23:50.530 align:middle line:84%
And I don\'t think it\'s
been restored yet.

00:23:50.530 --> 00:23:55.230 align:middle line:84%
We don\'t have the a bright,
shiny-eyed idealism and

00:23:55.230 --> 00:23:57.190 align:middle line:90%
patriotism there once was.

00:23:57.190 --> 00:23:59.810 align:middle line:84%
There\'s a cynicism that has
set in about government.

00:23:59.810 --> 00:24:02.890 align:middle line:84%
And I think that it came
out of that period.

00:24:02.890 --> 00:24:07.270 align:middle line:84%
I think in some ways I had
chosen to be involved in

00:24:07.270 --> 00:24:10.390 align:middle line:84%
Christian service because I did
feel that one of the most

00:24:10.390 --> 00:24:13.920 align:middle line:84%
effective ways of changing
society was by changing

00:24:13.920 --> 00:24:16.610 align:middle line:84%
individuals through the
Gospel of Christ.

00:24:16.610 --> 00:24:20.810 align:middle line:84%
And I supposed what I learned
about Richard Nixon was simply

00:24:20.810 --> 00:24:22.700 align:middle line:84%
more confirmation that
people\'s lives

00:24:22.700 --> 00:24:23.800 align:middle line:90%
needed to be changed.

00:24:23.800 --> 00:24:26.100 align:middle line:84%
And that he was a sinner
like everybody else.

00:24:26.100 --> 00:24:31.240 align:middle line:84%
I guess it confirmed my feeling
at the time that the

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government wasn\'t going
to fix things.

00:24:32.730 --> 00:24:37.330 align:middle line:90%

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That same feeling that
government could no longer be

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trusted to fix things may have
pressed evangelical Christians

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in West Virginia to take up
arms in the culture war.

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The summer Richard Nixon
resigned, they began a fierce

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fight to defend their children
an their traditional values.

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It became known as the Kanawha
County textbook war.

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[CHEERING]

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We\'re all out for one thing, and
that\'s to not see that our

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children\'s minds are torn down,
and this stuff goes into

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the schools.

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You know, if we don\'t take a
stand now, we\'re not going to

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have anything to stand
for in five years.

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It\'s now or never.

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We are resolved that the books
will come out, our children go

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back to school.

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[CHEERING]

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God bless every one of you.

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You know, if Richard Nixon
went to jail, well,

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let him go to jail.

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It doesn\'t really matter to me
going to work at the coal

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mine, or going to
work at Carbine.

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But if you affect my child, if
you affect my home, if you

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affect my world, then I\'m
going to take a stand.

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That\'s what happened in 1974.

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The Kanawha County controversy
was about at least a half a

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dozen major series by different
publishers.

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And mine, called
the Interaction

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Program, was one of them.

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These were all designed toward
the beginning of the \'70s, and

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they reflected the progressive
spirit of the \'60s, and hope

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for a lot of change.

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When the books where adopted
in the spring of the year,

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before school was out for the
summer, there was a little bit

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of controversy because, due to
one of the board members that

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was on the board at the time,
she questioned the textbook

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selection committee
about the books.

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And I think that, in turn, got
some other people in the

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community inflamed
about the book.

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We want in our science studies
or our social studies program.

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What are our goals
and objectives?

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And she had successfully, more
or less, squelched a

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sex-education program the year
before by developing a

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campaign against it.

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And in fact, this made her kind
of conservative heroine.

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And this got her elected
to the school board.

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We had been through a textbook
adoption, I believe at some

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time, maybe a couple of years
after I was on the board.

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And it really bothered me that
there were all these books,

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and that I didn\'t have
a handle on what

00:27:05.820 --> 00:27:07.690 align:middle line:90%
we were in the schools.

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There\'s got to be a better
way than the way

00:27:09.260 --> 00:27:10.400 align:middle line:90%
we\'ve been doing it.

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Up until this point, since I\'ve
been on the board-- right

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before I was ever on the
board, the board, to my

00:27:16.095 --> 00:27:19.000 align:middle line:84%
knowledge, had no way right
now of controlling the

00:27:19.000 --> 00:27:20.150 align:middle line:90%
adoption of textbooks.

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So she called me and said,
Elmer, would you come over and

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look at these books?

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I just--

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I don\'t know what to
think about them.

00:27:25.550 --> 00:27:27.220 align:middle line:84%
So I went over to
her house, and I

00:27:27.220 --> 00:27:28.700 align:middle line:90%
looked through the books.

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And for a person that knows
the conservative and the

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liberal viewpoint like I do,
and studied it and really

00:27:34.490 --> 00:27:37.720 align:middle line:84%
followed very closely, it was
obvious almost immediately

00:27:37.720 --> 00:27:39.520 align:middle line:84%
where these books were
coming from.

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And they were really the type
of thing that I didn\'t

00:27:42.280 --> 00:27:43.350 align:middle line:90%
approve of at all.

00:27:43.350 --> 00:27:46.410 align:middle line:84%
They were certainly extremely
liberal, even beyond what we

00:27:46.410 --> 00:27:48.440 align:middle line:84%
thought of as liberal
at that time.

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Here were books from several
different companies.

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These were from major book
companies all over the country

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that had a definite
anti-Christian slant.

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These were not--

00:28:04.330 --> 00:28:06.840 align:middle line:84%
we weren\'t talking about
ignoring Christianity.

00:28:06.840 --> 00:28:10.910 align:middle line:84%
We we\'re talking about attacking
Christianity.

00:28:10.910 --> 00:28:18.010 align:middle line:84%
Every selection in a particular
literature book

00:28:18.010 --> 00:28:19.930 align:middle line:84%
would present Christianity
in a bad light.

00:28:19.930 --> 00:28:21.700 align:middle line:84%
Christians were always
hypocrites.

00:28:21.700 --> 00:28:24.910 align:middle line:84%
Only old people believed
in God.

00:28:24.910 --> 00:28:27.720 align:middle line:84%
The young people sneered
at religion.

00:28:27.720 --> 00:28:30.240 align:middle line:90%
Even Christ was mocked.

00:28:30.240 --> 00:28:31.300 align:middle line:90%
And the books were full of it.

00:28:31.300 --> 00:28:32.640 align:middle line:90%
It couldn\'t be by accident.

00:28:32.640 --> 00:28:34.070 align:middle line:90%
It was the design.

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I read the books.

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I found nothing to be
concerned about.

00:28:37.740 --> 00:28:41.100 align:middle line:84%
Nothing that I would
have been at all--

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I had grandchildren at that time
in the school system--

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and there was nothing in those
books that I would have cared

00:28:48.120 --> 00:28:49.920 align:middle line:84%
for my grandchildren
to be taught.

00:28:49.920 --> 00:28:52.750 align:middle line:84%
I liked the textbooks, because
when I looked at the

00:28:52.750 --> 00:28:55.400 align:middle line:84%
textbooks, it was to my
knowledge, it was the first

00:28:55.400 --> 00:28:59.830 align:middle line:84%
time that we had really looked
at a multicultural text.

00:28:59.830 --> 00:29:04.320 align:middle line:84%
I felt it was something that we
had moved forward, because

00:29:04.320 --> 00:29:07.280 align:middle line:84%
we had faced integration,
and here we\'re now

00:29:07.280 --> 00:29:09.160 align:middle line:90%
teaching all students.

00:29:09.160 --> 00:29:13.510 align:middle line:84%
And I felt it was something that
we were going to be able

00:29:13.510 --> 00:29:17.510 align:middle line:84%
to have the black students see
some of their culture within

00:29:17.510 --> 00:29:19.140 align:middle line:90%
the textbooks for once.

00:29:19.140 --> 00:29:22.110 align:middle line:84%
These books were intended to
use so that the children to

00:29:22.110 --> 00:29:27.070 align:middle line:84%
discuss and talk, and develop
verbal skills, and take some

00:29:27.070 --> 00:29:29.210 align:middle line:84%
interest in the material that
was there so they would learn

00:29:29.210 --> 00:29:30.910 align:middle line:90%
more and open more books.

00:29:30.910 --> 00:29:32.840 align:middle line:84%
And particularly, open
themselves up to one another,

00:29:32.840 --> 00:29:34.210 align:middle line:90%
their own stories.

00:29:34.210 --> 00:29:40.750 align:middle line:84%
The purpose was to, in fact,
open the children\'s minds,

00:29:40.750 --> 00:29:43.730 align:middle line:84%
their thinking to accepting
various ideas, which were

00:29:43.730 --> 00:29:46.030 align:middle line:84%
contrary to what-- they were
views they might bring from

00:29:46.030 --> 00:29:47.380 align:middle line:90%
their home.

00:29:47.380 --> 00:29:52.590 align:middle line:84%
And that wasn\'t unacceptable
to me.

00:29:52.590 --> 00:29:55.100 align:middle line:84%
You know, when you\'ve been
taught that right is right,

00:29:55.100 --> 00:30:01.010 align:middle line:84%
and wrong is wrong, and some
other system comes into play

00:30:01.010 --> 00:30:05.500 align:middle line:84%
that\'s going to challenge that
or teach you otherwise, you

00:30:05.500 --> 00:30:06.990 align:middle line:90%
feel like this can\'t be.

00:30:06.990 --> 00:30:09.050 align:middle line:90%
I have to obey a higher law.

00:30:09.050 --> 00:30:10.900 align:middle line:84%
The first thing I did, I went
to the school board.

00:30:10.900 --> 00:30:11.980 align:middle line:90%
I went to the board members.

00:30:11.980 --> 00:30:13.520 align:middle line:84%
And we had a private
meeting on this.

00:30:13.520 --> 00:30:17.260 align:middle line:84%
And I was very careful to keep
this private, because I knew

00:30:17.260 --> 00:30:20.410 align:middle line:84%
as soon as I started raising
objections, I was going to be

00:30:20.410 --> 00:30:26.050 align:middle line:84%
hit with accusations of
book-burning, of Nazism.

00:30:26.050 --> 00:30:26.990 align:middle line:90%
I full expected that.

00:30:26.990 --> 00:30:30.610 align:middle line:84%
We started having community
meetings where parents and

00:30:30.610 --> 00:30:32.590 align:middle line:84%
concerned citizens
got together, and

00:30:32.590 --> 00:30:33.960 align:middle line:90%
discussed the books.

00:30:33.960 --> 00:30:35.600 align:middle line:84%
I took those books, and took
them all over the county.

00:30:35.600 --> 00:30:36.680 align:middle line:90%
Everywhere I could take them.

00:30:36.680 --> 00:30:38.480 align:middle line:84%
We started a couple of
organization meetings.

00:30:38.480 --> 00:30:40.060 align:middle line:90%
We put ads in the paper.

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It\'s just unbelievable
the response we got.

00:30:42.480 --> 00:30:47.230 align:middle line:84%
During the summer, I think
Mrs. Moore visited every

00:30:47.230 --> 00:30:53.350 align:middle line:84%
church in the county, getting
people upset that these dirty

00:30:53.350 --> 00:30:55.620 align:middle line:84%
books, these unreligious
books.

00:30:55.620 --> 00:30:57.520 align:middle line:84%
I read this particular little
piece of prose.

00:30:57.520 --> 00:31:03.090 align:middle line:84%
And what it was about was
someone talked about getting

00:31:03.090 --> 00:31:05.390 align:middle line:84%
on the bus, going to work--
you know, the routine day,

00:31:05.390 --> 00:31:06.430 align:middle line:90%
everybody\'s on the bus.

00:31:06.430 --> 00:31:07.700 align:middle line:90%
Everybody\'s going to work.

00:31:07.700 --> 00:31:08.610 align:middle line:90%
Everyone\'s sitting there.

00:31:08.610 --> 00:31:09.810 align:middle line:90%
No one\'s talking.

00:31:09.810 --> 00:31:12.370 align:middle line:84%
And then suddenly, he says--
but he just suddenly got an

00:31:12.370 --> 00:31:18.060 align:middle line:84%
idea, what if everyone
just started taking

00:31:18.060 --> 00:31:19.320 align:middle line:90%
their clothes off.

00:31:19.320 --> 00:31:21.420 align:middle line:84%
And everyone just started making
love with everybody

00:31:21.420 --> 00:31:22.600 align:middle line:90%
else on the bus.

00:31:22.600 --> 00:31:25.970 align:middle line:84%
And we would have this bus
full of all these bobbing

00:31:25.970 --> 00:31:29.360 align:middle line:84%
bodies, as something like that,
and they would all just

00:31:29.360 --> 00:31:30.960 align:middle line:90%
be making love on the bus.

00:31:30.960 --> 00:31:33.810 align:middle line:84%
And what if this just spread
all over the world.

00:31:33.810 --> 00:31:35.222 align:middle line:90%
And this is what--

00:31:35.222 --> 00:31:38.380 align:middle line:84%
and every bus, everywhere,
people would be taking their

00:31:38.380 --> 00:31:39.850 align:middle line:84%
clothes off, and everybody
would be making love.

00:31:39.850 --> 00:31:42.050 align:middle line:84%
And this basically
is the story--

00:31:42.050 --> 00:31:43.440 align:middle line:90%
little short prose there.

00:31:43.440 --> 00:31:44.560 align:middle line:90%
So I did this.

00:31:44.560 --> 00:31:47.860 align:middle line:84%
Then I said, you know what Elmer
Fike thinks about this.

00:31:47.860 --> 00:31:49.720 align:middle line:84%
And you know want I
think about this.

00:31:49.720 --> 00:31:51.150 align:middle line:90%
Now, it\'s your decision.

00:31:51.150 --> 00:31:52.720 align:middle line:84%
You decide what you
think about this.

00:31:52.720 --> 00:31:56.420 align:middle line:84%
And you need to let the school
board know how you feel about

00:31:56.420 --> 00:31:59.320 align:middle line:84%
putting this in your
child\'s classroom.

00:31:59.320 --> 00:32:03.240 align:middle line:84%
And when I got home, my
phone started ringing.

00:32:03.240 --> 00:32:05.250 align:middle line:84%
And it didn\'t stop
for two days.

00:32:05.250 --> 00:32:06.260 align:middle line:90%
It was day and night.

00:32:06.260 --> 00:32:08.680 align:middle line:84%
We had to take it off
the hook at night.

00:32:08.680 --> 00:32:11.770 align:middle line:84%
At 2:00 in the morning,
we\'d take it off

00:32:11.770 --> 00:32:12.800 align:middle line:90%
just to get some peace.

00:32:12.800 --> 00:32:16.060 align:middle line:84%
It literally rang as soon as
soon as it was hung up.

00:32:16.060 --> 00:32:17.730 align:middle line:84%
So I\'m sure the school
board was getting

00:32:17.730 --> 00:32:19.010 align:middle line:90%
swamped with calls.

00:32:19.010 --> 00:32:23.370 align:middle line:84%
And I was getting calls from
people who were just--

00:32:23.370 --> 00:32:25.993 align:middle line:84%
their anger was just
so overwhelming.

00:32:25.993 --> 00:32:29.180 align:middle line:90%

00:32:29.180 --> 00:32:30.300 align:middle line:90%
I made my point.

00:32:30.300 --> 00:32:34.570 align:middle line:84%
General Patton said, give me
enough young people, and I\'ll

00:32:34.570 --> 00:32:36.760 align:middle line:90%
whoop any nation under heaven.

00:32:36.760 --> 00:32:40.360 align:middle line:84%
Now our children has run off
to war, and has saved our

00:32:40.360 --> 00:32:42.652 align:middle line:84%
government time and
time again.

00:32:42.652 --> 00:32:45.360 align:middle line:84%
Now, communists have came
into our schools.

00:32:45.360 --> 00:32:46.695 align:middle line:90%
And I\'m calling on our

00:32:46.695 --> 00:32:48.480 align:middle line:90%
government to save our children.

00:32:48.480 --> 00:32:50.175 align:middle line:90%
Bear in mind that Alice Moore\'s

00:32:50.175 --> 00:32:53.360 align:middle line:90%
husband was a preacher.

00:32:53.360 --> 00:32:58.352 align:middle line:84%
And all these other preachers,
I think, got on his and

00:32:58.352 --> 00:33:01.340 align:middle line:84%
Alice\'s bandwagon after
the thing started.

00:33:01.340 --> 00:33:03.760 align:middle line:84%
The issue right now is these
books that are in Kanawha

00:33:03.760 --> 00:33:05.750 align:middle line:84%
County, that are
in the schools.

00:33:05.750 --> 00:33:08.600 align:middle line:84%
And moms and dads are
fed up with it.

00:33:08.600 --> 00:33:10.620 align:middle line:90%
[CHEERING]

00:33:10.620 --> 00:33:11.620 align:middle line:90%
All these rotten books.

00:33:11.620 --> 00:33:15.050 align:middle line:84%
All these rotten and dirty
and filthy books.

00:33:15.050 --> 00:33:18.100 align:middle line:84%
People who were concerned about
the books, when they had

00:33:18.100 --> 00:33:23.330 align:middle line:84%
no avenue of being heard or
their concerns addressed,

00:33:23.330 --> 00:33:25.020 align:middle line:90%
began to mobilize.

00:33:25.020 --> 00:33:28.100 align:middle line:84%
They began to march down
Kanawha Boulevard.

00:33:28.100 --> 00:33:31.340 align:middle line:90%

00:33:31.340 --> 00:33:35.172 align:middle line:84%
Unfortunately, communication
failed.

00:33:35.172 --> 00:33:38.280 align:middle line:84%
And so, that\'s when many people
took to marching in the

00:33:38.280 --> 00:33:42.130 align:middle line:84%
streets, which was very uncommon
Kanawha County.

00:33:42.130 --> 00:33:45.840 align:middle line:84%
That\'s why it was such
a dramatic thing.

00:33:45.840 --> 00:33:48.080 align:middle line:84%
We just didn\'t do things
like that.

00:33:48.080 --> 00:34:05.040 align:middle line:90%
[SINGING]

00:34:05.040 --> 00:34:07.410 align:middle line:84%
You that are here, if you\'ve
never been on a protest line,

00:34:07.410 --> 00:34:09.900 align:middle line:84%
if you\'ve never held your
child out of school.

00:34:09.900 --> 00:34:13.290 align:middle line:84%
Come Tuesday, I expect
to see ghosts

00:34:13.290 --> 00:34:14.769 align:middle line:90%
rooms in Kanawha County.

00:34:14.769 --> 00:34:15.516 align:middle line:90%
[CHEERING]

00:34:15.516 --> 00:34:17.300 align:middle line:84%
I expect to see classes
not there.

00:34:17.300 --> 00:34:19.090 align:middle line:90%
[CHEERING]

00:34:19.090 --> 00:34:22.139 align:middle line:84%
We don\'t expect anybody to go
slipping under the back doors

00:34:22.139 --> 00:34:23.150 align:middle line:90%
or under the fences.

00:34:23.150 --> 00:34:25.360 align:middle line:84%
We\'re tired of the school
buses running over us.

00:34:25.360 --> 00:34:26.744 align:middle line:90%
It\'s time to shut it down.

00:34:26.744 --> 00:34:27.996 align:middle line:90%
Shut it down.

00:34:27.996 --> 00:34:40.449 align:middle line:90%
[APPLAUSE]

00:34:40.449 --> 00:34:41.449 align:middle line:90%
Everybody got in it.

00:34:41.449 --> 00:34:43.020 align:middle line:84%
And by the time school
opened, it was an

00:34:43.020 --> 00:34:45.810 align:middle line:90%
extremely explosive situation.

00:34:45.810 --> 00:34:48.260 align:middle line:84%
And living in the valley at
that time was a fearful

00:34:48.260 --> 00:34:53.300 align:middle line:84%
experience for everybody
concerned, because lines were

00:34:53.300 --> 00:34:55.949 align:middle line:90%
drawn very hard in the sand.

00:34:55.949 --> 00:34:59.520 align:middle line:84%
And that community, locked into
that little valley there

00:34:59.520 --> 00:35:04.690 align:middle line:84%
were those mountains,
it felt intense.

00:35:04.690 --> 00:35:07.692 align:middle line:84%
But I know that I have never
knowingly agreed to put into

00:35:07.692 --> 00:35:10.630 align:middle line:84%
the classroom a textbook that
tells a student to go out and

00:35:10.630 --> 00:35:12.005 align:middle line:84%
get a gun, and join the
revolution, and

00:35:12.005 --> 00:35:13.656 align:middle line:90%
kill the white entity.

00:35:13.656 --> 00:35:15.510 align:middle line:90%
I don\'t think they say that.

00:35:15.510 --> 00:35:16.770 align:middle line:84%
I\'m sorry, but they
do say that.

00:35:16.770 --> 00:35:17.100 align:middle line:90%
Better look at the literature.

00:35:17.100 --> 00:35:18.310 align:middle line:90%
They do say that.

00:35:18.310 --> 00:35:19.730 align:middle line:84%
Now don\'t tell me that these
books don\'t tell them to go

00:35:19.730 --> 00:35:20.830 align:middle line:90%
out and join a revolution.

00:35:20.830 --> 00:35:22.100 align:middle line:90%
I\'ve read too much of it.

00:35:22.100 --> 00:35:25.090 align:middle line:84%
And tell them to destroy
the Constitution.

00:35:25.090 --> 00:35:27.970 align:middle line:90%
We lost a lot of children.

00:35:27.970 --> 00:35:32.150 align:middle line:84%
A lot of children didn\'t show up
at the beginning of school.

00:35:32.150 --> 00:35:33.150 align:middle line:90%
They were keeping them out.

00:35:33.150 --> 00:35:33.660 align:middle line:90%
Would you--

00:35:33.660 --> 00:35:34.200 align:middle line:90%
All right.

00:35:34.200 --> 00:35:36.660 align:middle line:84%
Would you let me finish
my motion.

00:35:36.660 --> 00:35:37.720 align:middle line:90%
--complete my motion.

00:35:37.720 --> 00:35:39.271 align:middle line:90%
And you will find your motion.

00:35:39.271 --> 00:35:40.150 align:middle line:84%
It won\'t be, unless
you complete it.

00:35:40.150 --> 00:35:41.640 align:middle line:90%
You will find your motion.

00:35:41.640 --> 00:35:42.490 align:middle line:84%
You\'ll find that you\'ll
have your chance--

00:35:42.490 --> 00:35:46.880 align:middle line:84%
She then revised this not
to purchase until she

00:35:46.880 --> 00:35:48.830 align:middle line:90%
had read the books.

00:35:48.830 --> 00:35:51.220 align:middle line:84%
In my opinion, this is a grave
error on her part.

00:35:51.220 --> 00:35:52.860 align:middle line:90%
Revised, my foot.

00:35:52.860 --> 00:35:55.210 align:middle line:84%
I was a part of a group of
people who took the books

00:35:55.210 --> 00:35:56.420 align:middle line:84%
around, had the people
look at.

00:35:56.420 --> 00:35:58.340 align:middle line:84%
Everyone was so frightened of
these books, as if though

00:35:58.340 --> 00:36:01.060 align:middle line:84%
somehow they were going to die
if they read -- their children

00:36:01.060 --> 00:36:02.570 align:middle line:84%
would die if they read
these books.

00:36:02.570 --> 00:36:06.550 align:middle line:84%
They were afraid of losing
their children, which is

00:36:06.550 --> 00:36:08.640 align:middle line:84%
something a lot of parents
can identify with.

00:36:08.640 --> 00:36:11.780 align:middle line:84%
They felt their children were
being mentally kidnapped.

00:36:11.780 --> 00:36:15.720 align:middle line:84%
The undersigned, citizens and
taxpayers of Kanawha County in

00:36:15.720 --> 00:36:20.060 align:middle line:84%
the state of West Virginia,
hereby petition the Board of

00:36:20.060 --> 00:36:24.720 align:middle line:84%
Education to deny the use of
certain textbooks in the

00:36:24.720 --> 00:36:25.980 align:middle line:90%
schools of this county.

00:36:25.980 --> 00:36:30.890 align:middle line:90%
[CHEERING]

00:36:30.890 --> 00:36:35.910 align:middle line:84%
More specifically, it is
requested that any textbooks,

00:36:35.910 --> 00:36:40.930 align:middle line:84%
periodicals, pamphlets, or other
instructional materials

00:36:40.930 --> 00:36:47.670 align:middle line:84%
be prohibited which demean and
encourage skepticism, or

00:36:47.670 --> 00:36:51.750 align:middle line:84%
foster a disbelief in the
institutions of the United

00:36:51.750 --> 00:36:53.500 align:middle line:90%
States of America.

00:36:53.500 --> 00:36:56.600 align:middle line:84%
There were poems and stuff in
there they just were-- you

00:36:56.600 --> 00:36:58.400 align:middle line:84%
see, this was shortly
after the height of

00:36:58.400 --> 00:36:59.810 align:middle line:90%
the anti-war protest.

00:36:59.810 --> 00:37:02.860 align:middle line:84%
And they played that up
for all it was worth.

00:37:02.860 --> 00:37:06.310 align:middle line:84%
And of course, I didn\'t
appreciate that at all.

00:37:06.310 --> 00:37:10.520 align:middle line:84%
I want you people to know out
there, and I want these boys

00:37:10.520 --> 00:37:12.830 align:middle line:90%
to get a good picture of this.

00:37:12.830 --> 00:37:15.670 align:middle line:84%
This American flag is
not upside-down.

00:37:15.670 --> 00:37:21.770 align:middle line:90%
[CHEERING]

00:37:21.770 --> 00:37:24.990 align:middle line:84%
And this American flag, we don\'t
intend to take it out

00:37:24.990 --> 00:37:26.910 align:middle line:84%
here and burn it in the
city streets, either.

00:37:26.910 --> 00:37:32.780 align:middle line:90%
[CHEERING]

00:37:32.780 --> 00:37:33.690 align:middle line:90%
There was--

00:37:33.690 --> 00:37:36.080 align:middle line:84%
you know, for the newspapers,
from time to time, would play

00:37:36.080 --> 00:37:39.290 align:middle line:84%
up the angle around the country,
about this minority

00:37:39.290 --> 00:37:43.170 align:middle line:84%
objecting to, trying to force
their views on the majority.

00:37:43.170 --> 00:37:46.900 align:middle line:84%
But in Kanawha County, we
were a clear majority.

00:37:46.900 --> 00:37:50.490 align:middle line:84%
It was a small, elitist minority
trying to force their

00:37:50.490 --> 00:37:52.970 align:middle line:84%
views on the overwhelming
majority.

00:37:52.970 --> 00:37:56.340 align:middle line:84%
They were a minority,
I\'m sure.

00:37:56.340 --> 00:37:59.450 align:middle line:84%
I can assure you it was
not a minority.

00:37:59.450 --> 00:38:03.450 align:middle line:84%
The majority of parents were
against these textbooks.

00:38:03.450 --> 00:38:07.340 align:middle line:84%
The protesters, they were
a minority group.

00:38:07.340 --> 00:38:11.240 align:middle line:84%
And the ones who, I guess,
were strongly against the

00:38:11.240 --> 00:38:15.290 align:middle line:84%
books did not send their
students back to school.

00:38:15.290 --> 00:38:17.820 align:middle line:84%
This is when we had the
beginnings of Christian

00:38:17.820 --> 00:38:19.740 align:middle line:90%
schools in the valley.

00:38:19.740 --> 00:38:22.864 align:middle line:84%
And organized their
your own school.

00:38:22.864 --> 00:38:31.040 align:middle line:90%
[RECITING A CHRISTIAN PLEDGE]

00:38:31.040 --> 00:38:32.930 align:middle line:84%
And now, to God\'s
wonderful word.

00:38:32.930 --> 00:38:40.430 align:middle line:90%
[RECITING A BIBLE PLEDGE]

00:38:40.430 --> 00:38:42.020 align:middle line:84%
I\'m anything but a
fundamentalist.

00:38:42.020 --> 00:38:43.560 align:middle line:84%
I\'m certainly not a
fundamentalist at all.

00:38:43.560 --> 00:38:45.010 align:middle line:90%
But I am a regular church--

00:38:45.010 --> 00:38:46.160 align:middle line:90%
I go to church every Sunday.

00:38:46.160 --> 00:38:48.400 align:middle line:84%
And I\'ve always gone to
church all my life.

00:38:48.400 --> 00:38:50.940 align:middle line:84%
And I\'ve been very involved
in religious activities.

00:38:50.940 --> 00:38:54.120 align:middle line:84%
But there were some things
in there that I certainly

00:38:54.120 --> 00:38:54.820 align:middle line:90%
objected to.

00:38:54.820 --> 00:39:00.270 align:middle line:84%
Like in the third or fourth
grade, they say, write a myth.

00:39:00.270 --> 00:39:01.160 align:middle line:90%
You write a myth.

00:39:01.160 --> 00:39:03.210 align:middle line:84%
And then they would tell a
story, sort of like the

00:39:03.210 --> 00:39:06.610 align:middle line:84%
creation or like the flood, or
some other biblical story.

00:39:06.610 --> 00:39:09.200 align:middle line:84%
And said, you write a
myth like this one.

00:39:09.200 --> 00:39:12.260 align:middle line:84%
The interpretation of the word
\"mythology\" could mean

00:39:12.260 --> 00:39:14.070 align:middle line:84%
different things to
different people.

00:39:14.070 --> 00:39:19.480 align:middle line:84%
But to West Virginians,
mythology is a made-up story,

00:39:19.480 --> 00:39:22.410 align:middle line:90%
is a make-believe story.

00:39:22.410 --> 00:39:26.640 align:middle line:84%
What we had been taught of the
Bible, we believe that the

00:39:26.640 --> 00:39:30.150 align:middle line:84%
Bible is the inerrant
Word of God.

00:39:30.150 --> 00:39:31.700 align:middle line:90%
That it is true.

00:39:31.700 --> 00:39:32.820 align:middle line:90%
That it\'s not a fable.

00:39:32.820 --> 00:39:34.540 align:middle line:90%
It\'s not something made up.

00:39:34.540 --> 00:39:36.460 align:middle line:84%
It\'s something handed
down from God.

00:39:36.460 --> 00:39:39.110 align:middle line:84%
Anybody can argue whether what\'s
written in the Bible is

00:39:39.110 --> 00:39:41.820 align:middle line:84%
a myth or the true, revealed
word of God.

00:39:41.820 --> 00:39:43.870 align:middle line:84%
You can argue about
that from now on.

00:39:43.870 --> 00:39:47.950 align:middle line:84%
But here was the textbooks
printing the fact that, taking

00:39:47.950 --> 00:39:51.470 align:middle line:84%
one side of it, and not giving
the other side at all.

00:39:51.470 --> 00:39:55.820 align:middle line:84%
Humanism, in many ways, is
a religion in itself.

00:39:55.820 --> 00:39:57.110 align:middle line:90%
Man is the ultimate.

00:39:57.110 --> 00:39:58.360 align:middle line:90%
God is not.

00:39:58.360 --> 00:40:00.690 align:middle line:84%
Well, that was what
was coming in.

00:40:00.690 --> 00:40:02.620 align:middle line:84%
And we said, no, you\'re
not going to teach

00:40:02.620 --> 00:40:03.978 align:middle line:90%
our children that.

00:40:03.978 --> 00:40:04.974 align:middle line:90%
All of--

00:40:04.974 --> 00:40:08.460 align:middle line:84%
believe me, the books that have
been on the handbills,

00:40:08.460 --> 00:40:11.199 align:middle line:84%
all that you\'ve seen printed on
the handbills, all of those

00:40:11.199 --> 00:40:12.450 align:middle line:90%
books are coming out.

00:40:12.450 --> 00:40:14.910 align:middle line:84%
Both sides of the controversy
appear to be insisting that

00:40:14.910 --> 00:40:17.930 align:middle line:84%
they\'ll make no compromise
in the textbook issue.

00:40:17.930 --> 00:40:20.450 align:middle line:84%
But compromise appears to be
the only way that Kanawha

00:40:20.450 --> 00:40:23.400 align:middle line:84%
County will escape violence over
the question of what its

00:40:23.400 --> 00:40:25.100 align:middle line:90%
children read.

00:40:25.100 --> 00:40:26.680 align:middle line:90%
Ron Miller, ABC News.

00:40:26.680 --> 00:40:29.110 align:middle line:90%
Charleston, West Virginia.

00:40:29.110 --> 00:40:33.610 align:middle line:84%
The book protesters enlisted
the aid of the miners, who

00:40:33.610 --> 00:40:37.120 align:middle line:84%
would go on strike whenever
any problem comes up.

00:40:37.120 --> 00:40:42.620 align:middle line:84%
Because that is their way of
expressing themselves.

00:40:42.620 --> 00:40:43.820 align:middle line:90%
That added a power.

00:40:43.820 --> 00:40:46.700 align:middle line:84%
It gave a power to the people
that people don\'t have

00:40:46.700 --> 00:40:48.690 align:middle line:84%
anywhere else, and didn\'t
have anywhere else.

00:40:48.690 --> 00:40:52.380 align:middle line:90%
It gave a financial power.

00:40:52.380 --> 00:40:54.770 align:middle line:84%
That coal mine strike
was costing millions

00:40:54.770 --> 00:40:56.710 align:middle line:90%
of dollars a day.

00:40:56.710 --> 00:40:58.200 align:middle line:90%
There were picketing of lines.

00:40:58.200 --> 00:41:02.960 align:middle line:84%
There were barricades and some
of the trucking companies.

00:41:02.960 --> 00:41:05.740 align:middle line:84%
Two men were wounded
by gunshot fired.

00:41:05.740 --> 00:41:07.580 align:middle line:84%
And neither one of them had
anything to do with the

00:41:07.580 --> 00:41:08.410 align:middle line:90%
controversy.

00:41:08.410 --> 00:41:10.260 align:middle line:84%
They were unfortunate truckers
caught in the middle.

00:41:10.260 --> 00:41:15.020 align:middle line:84%
But it shows you now
how dynamic it was.

00:41:15.020 --> 00:41:16.010 align:middle line:90%
I will never forget.

00:41:16.010 --> 00:41:18.480 align:middle line:84%
We had an afternoon service
and an evening mass.

00:41:18.480 --> 00:41:21.150 align:middle line:84%
And after the afternoon
children\'s service-- family

00:41:21.150 --> 00:41:22.810 align:middle line:90%
service, we--

00:41:22.810 --> 00:41:23.680 align:middle line:90%
I went to the door.

00:41:23.680 --> 00:41:24.570 align:middle line:90%
And someone came in.

00:41:24.570 --> 00:41:27.910 align:middle line:84%
They were ashen, and said, did
you see what\'s stuck on the

00:41:27.910 --> 00:41:28.620 align:middle line:90%
church door?

00:41:28.620 --> 00:41:31.540 align:middle line:84%
And there were little stickers
stuck on the church door that

00:41:31.540 --> 00:41:33.950 align:middle line:84%
says, you\'ve been paid
a visit by the Klan.

00:41:33.950 --> 00:41:36.060 align:middle line:84%
There were bombs that went
off in different

00:41:36.060 --> 00:41:38.450 align:middle line:90%
parts of the county.

00:41:38.450 --> 00:41:41.240 align:middle line:84%
The roads were blocked
so that buses

00:41:41.240 --> 00:41:42.950 align:middle line:90%
could not travel through.

00:41:42.950 --> 00:41:45.020 align:middle line:84%
And they tried to frighten
the church people.

00:41:45.020 --> 00:41:45.880 align:middle line:90%
Don\'t get involved.

00:41:45.880 --> 00:41:47.510 align:middle line:90%
You could get hurt.

00:41:47.510 --> 00:41:49.290 align:middle line:84%
It was at that time
we put Plexiglas

00:41:49.290 --> 00:41:50.290 align:middle line:90%
on the church windows.

00:41:50.290 --> 00:41:52.000 align:middle line:84%
They were afraid they
would be blown out.

00:41:52.000 --> 00:41:54.520 align:middle line:84%
And in the middle of the night,
we had a dynamite bomb

00:41:54.520 --> 00:41:57.930 align:middle line:84%
in the classroom, which blew a
hole in the floor, destroyed

00:41:57.930 --> 00:42:00.890 align:middle line:84%
several children\'s desks, a
book case, and a teacher\'s

00:42:00.890 --> 00:42:03.060 align:middle line:90%
desk was partially destroyed.

00:42:03.060 --> 00:42:07.090 align:middle line:90%
I got a threat.

00:42:07.090 --> 00:42:12.840 align:middle line:84%
I was at about 6 o\'clock in the
evening, that you won\'t be

00:42:12.840 --> 00:42:16.360 align:middle line:90%
alive come 12 o\'clock.

00:42:16.360 --> 00:42:17.710 align:middle line:84%
Those things shouldn\'t
have happened.

00:42:17.710 --> 00:42:19.040 align:middle line:90%
But it doesn\'t take--

00:42:19.040 --> 00:42:21.310 align:middle line:84%
that doesn\'t represent
a movement.

00:42:21.310 --> 00:42:24.200 align:middle line:84%
It didn\'t take but one
person to do that.

00:42:24.200 --> 00:42:25.930 align:middle line:84%
One person could have done most
of the things that were

00:42:25.930 --> 00:42:26.900 align:middle line:90%
done there.

00:42:26.900 --> 00:42:27.740 align:middle line:90%
And not--

00:42:27.740 --> 00:42:29.910 align:middle line:84%
there probably were some
more people involved

00:42:29.910 --> 00:42:30.730 align:middle line:90%
than that one person.

00:42:30.730 --> 00:42:32.720 align:middle line:84%
I\'m sure there were more
people involved.

00:42:32.720 --> 00:42:38.800 align:middle line:84%
But that didn\'t represent what
this movement was all about,

00:42:38.800 --> 00:42:40.450 align:middle line:84%
and what this concern
was all about.

00:42:40.450 --> 00:42:45.200 align:middle line:84%
Once the word got out, they
attracted a lot of very

00:42:45.200 --> 00:42:46.320 align:middle line:90%
different people.

00:42:46.320 --> 00:42:50.620 align:middle line:84%
I know, for example, that the
John Birch Society came into

00:42:50.620 --> 00:42:55.230 align:middle line:84%
the struggle, and issued a whole
lot of literature, and

00:42:55.230 --> 00:42:56.740 align:middle line:84%
cast it about in
the community.

00:42:56.740 --> 00:42:58.120 align:middle line:90%
Mailed it out to people.

00:42:58.120 --> 00:42:59.050 align:middle line:90%
That came in.

00:42:59.050 --> 00:43:01.280 align:middle line:90%
And we didn\'t reject them.

00:43:01.280 --> 00:43:03.850 align:middle line:84%
I have read a lot of the
John Birch literature.

00:43:03.850 --> 00:43:06.370 align:middle line:84%
I am sympathetic to their goals,
and what they\'re trying

00:43:06.370 --> 00:43:07.890 align:middle line:90%
to do, for the most part.

00:43:07.890 --> 00:43:11.565 align:middle line:84%
But I think sometimes they get
a little bit out of line.

00:43:11.565 --> 00:43:13.390 align:middle line:90%
And that\'s--

00:43:13.390 --> 00:43:17.040 align:middle line:84%
it did not give us the kind
of image we wanted, as the

00:43:17.040 --> 00:43:18.420 align:middle line:84%
Business and Professional
People\'s

00:43:18.420 --> 00:43:19.850 align:middle line:90%
Alliance for Better Textbooks.

00:43:19.850 --> 00:43:21.740 align:middle line:84%
I greatly resented
them coming in.

00:43:21.740 --> 00:43:24.100 align:middle line:84%
They were not there
in the beginning.

00:43:24.100 --> 00:43:27.190 align:middle line:84%
They were not there going out,
looking at the textbooks.

00:43:27.190 --> 00:43:31.600 align:middle line:84%
I doubt that they even saw the
textbooks, that they even knew

00:43:31.600 --> 00:43:32.200 align:middle line:90%
what was in it.

00:43:32.200 --> 00:43:34.400 align:middle line:84%
They just found a good thing
going that was getting some

00:43:34.400 --> 00:43:35.720 align:middle line:90%
national attention.

00:43:35.720 --> 00:43:37.520 align:middle line:90%
And they jumped on board.

00:43:37.520 --> 00:43:38.580 align:middle line:90%
I resent that.

00:43:38.580 --> 00:43:39.980 align:middle line:90%
And I think a lot of people--

00:43:39.980 --> 00:43:42.040 align:middle line:90%
I became a lot wiser.

00:43:42.040 --> 00:43:43.360 align:middle line:90%
I had no objection to--

00:43:43.360 --> 00:43:47.550 align:middle line:84%
I had no objection to anybody
who had thought they had a

00:43:47.550 --> 00:43:48.960 align:middle line:90%
legitimate voice to offer.

00:43:48.960 --> 00:43:50.430 align:middle line:84%
I mean, it brought in
all kinds of people.

00:43:50.430 --> 00:43:51.550 align:middle line:90%
I know that it did.

00:43:51.550 --> 00:43:54.060 align:middle line:84%
The Heritage Foundation,
from Washington

00:43:54.060 --> 00:43:55.600 align:middle line:90%
think tank , came in.

00:43:55.600 --> 00:43:59.830 align:middle line:84%
And they gave legal support,
their own lawyers, and money

00:43:59.830 --> 00:44:03.120 align:middle line:84%
to ministers who were jailed--
the leaders of the book

00:44:03.120 --> 00:44:04.400 align:middle line:90%
rebellion--

00:44:04.400 --> 00:44:07.200 align:middle line:84%
to get them out of jail, to
give them legal advice.

00:44:07.200 --> 00:44:08.750 align:middle line:84%
I was with the Heritage
Foundation.

00:44:08.750 --> 00:44:12.890 align:middle line:84%
And in only a few months, I
think it was one of the bosses

00:44:12.890 --> 00:44:15.070 align:middle line:90%
there-- perhaps Weyrich--

00:44:15.070 --> 00:44:17.130 align:middle line:84%
who had contact with
these people.

00:44:17.130 --> 00:44:21.180 align:middle line:84%
And turned to me and said,
you\'ve had some experience

00:44:21.180 --> 00:44:22.230 align:middle line:90%
with this kind of problem.

00:44:22.230 --> 00:44:24.330 align:middle line:84%
Would you be willing
to go down there?

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And I went down.

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I\'ve been a supporter.

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And I\'m with them all.

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I go to their annual meetings
all the time now.

00:44:31.030 --> 00:44:34.560 align:middle line:84%
We talked to them, and asked
them if they would be

00:44:34.560 --> 00:44:35.130 align:middle line:90%
interested.

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And they sent a group down
here, and they had some

00:44:37.360 --> 00:44:39.610 align:middle line:84%
meetings with us,
and with people.

00:44:39.610 --> 00:44:44.780 align:middle line:84%
The conservative element in the
society, then and since

00:44:44.780 --> 00:44:49.340 align:middle line:84%
then, have had a continuing
suspicion about the education

00:44:49.340 --> 00:44:50.620 align:middle line:90%
establishment.

00:44:50.620 --> 00:44:54.720 align:middle line:84%
So that wasn\'t anything
surprising about them jumping

00:44:54.720 --> 00:44:55.970 align:middle line:90%
into the ballgame.

00:44:55.970 --> 00:44:57.970 align:middle line:90%

00:44:57.970 --> 00:45:00.680 align:middle line:90%
[CROWD CHATTERING]

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I think the motives for the
parents were a malaise that

00:45:07.750 --> 00:45:10.580 align:middle line:84%
they probably would not
be able to identify.

00:45:10.580 --> 00:45:14.310 align:middle line:90%

00:45:14.310 --> 00:45:18.020 align:middle line:84%
They were beginning to express
a dissatisfaction--

00:45:18.020 --> 00:45:20.710 align:middle line:84%
more general than merely
education.

00:45:20.710 --> 00:45:23.830 align:middle line:84%
But they didn\'t have the verbal
skills to say so.

00:45:23.830 --> 00:45:27.370 align:middle line:84%
Or perhaps, they didn\'t have the
ideological skills to say

00:45:27.370 --> 00:45:28.990 align:middle line:90%
what\'s really bothering them.

00:45:28.990 --> 00:45:39.570 align:middle line:90%
[CROWD SINGING]

00:45:39.570 --> 00:45:41.160 align:middle line:84%
It was just a matter
of somebody came

00:45:41.160 --> 00:45:42.490 align:middle line:90%
along willing to fight.

00:45:42.490 --> 00:45:46.920 align:middle line:90%
[CROWD SINGING]

00:45:46.920 --> 00:45:49.080 align:middle line:84%
Nobody was standing up
for these people.

00:45:49.080 --> 00:45:52.800 align:middle line:84%
Nobody was willing to get in
there and fight on the most

00:45:52.800 --> 00:45:56.214 align:middle line:90%
rudimentary grounds.

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We\'re not beginning with a
prayer, because each of our

00:45:59.900 --> 00:46:01.880 align:middle line:84%
ministers will lead
us in a prayer.

00:46:01.880 --> 00:46:05.510 align:middle line:84%
We feel that all of today--
this whole march--

00:46:05.510 --> 00:46:07.330 align:middle line:90%
is a prayer.

00:46:07.330 --> 00:46:09.820 align:middle line:84%
Bob Dornan came to
the community.

00:46:09.820 --> 00:46:11.850 align:middle line:84%
Citizens for decency
through law.

00:46:11.850 --> 00:46:15.315 align:middle line:84%
Who\'s provides the money to pay
Mr. Underwood\'s salary?

00:46:15.315 --> 00:46:15.810 align:middle line:90%
[SHOUTING]

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We do.

00:46:16.800 --> 00:46:18.780 align:middle line:90%
Who elects the school board?

00:46:18.780 --> 00:46:19.027 align:middle line:90%
[SHOUTING]

00:46:19.027 --> 00:46:20.265 align:middle line:90%
We do.

00:46:20.265 --> 00:46:23.235 align:middle line:84%
And who pays for
the textbooks?

00:46:23.235 --> 00:46:23.730 align:middle line:90%
[SHOUTING]

00:46:23.730 --> 00:46:25.215 align:middle line:90%
We do.

00:46:25.215 --> 00:46:28.185 align:middle line:84%
Then let\'s hear a little
cheer for parent power.

00:46:28.185 --> 00:46:33.660 align:middle line:90%
[CHEERING]

00:46:33.660 --> 00:46:40.110 align:middle line:84%
One night, I was asked by KABC,
in Los Angeles, to be on

00:46:40.110 --> 00:46:41.450 align:middle line:90%
a talk show.

00:46:41.450 --> 00:46:42.750 align:middle line:84%
It would be in the middle
of night, our

00:46:42.750 --> 00:46:43.900 align:middle line:90%
time in West Virginia.

00:46:43.900 --> 00:46:46.920 align:middle line:84%
So I remember a the
phone rang.

00:46:46.920 --> 00:46:49.010 align:middle line:84%
Alice Moore had been
on for a while.

00:46:49.010 --> 00:46:49.890 align:middle line:90%
And I came on.

00:46:49.890 --> 00:46:51.100 align:middle line:84%
It was around 3 o\'clock
in the morning.

00:46:51.100 --> 00:46:55.680 align:middle line:84%
And Bob Dornan was sitting out
there in the studio in

00:46:55.680 --> 00:46:57.180 align:middle line:90%
California, in Los Angeles.

00:46:57.180 --> 00:46:58.790 align:middle line:84%
We were fielding questions
from all over

00:46:58.790 --> 00:47:01.510 align:middle line:90%
Anaheim, all over.

00:47:01.510 --> 00:47:05.320 align:middle line:84%
And some woman came on from
Orange County and said, why

00:47:05.320 --> 00:47:07.390 align:middle line:84%
don\'t you tell everybody where
you\'re coming from, preacher?

00:47:07.390 --> 00:47:09.980 align:middle line:84%
You come out from behind
those robes.

00:47:09.980 --> 00:47:12.180 align:middle line:90%
You\'re a communist.

00:47:12.180 --> 00:47:14.500 align:middle line:84%
Tell us who\'s paying
your salary.

00:47:14.500 --> 00:47:16.370 align:middle line:84%
And I said to her, why don\'t you
ask the man who\'s in the

00:47:16.370 --> 00:47:18.960 align:middle line:84%
studio there, Bob Dornan who\'s
paying his salary.

00:47:18.960 --> 00:47:21.340 align:middle line:84%
In about two hours, I\'m going
to get up and go down to a

00:47:21.340 --> 00:47:24.880 align:middle line:84%
church, and be a preacher here
in Charleston, West Virginia.

00:47:24.880 --> 00:47:27.780 align:middle line:84%
And nobody\'s paying my salary
but that church.

00:47:27.780 --> 00:47:29.800 align:middle line:84%
Find out where he\'s coming from,
where his money\'s coming

00:47:29.800 --> 00:47:30.180 align:middle line:90%
from

00:47:30.180 --> 00:47:31.660 align:middle line:90%
It\'s been done deliberately.

00:47:31.660 --> 00:47:33.490 align:middle line:84%
They knew it when they
edit these books.

00:47:33.490 --> 00:47:35.670 align:middle line:84%
They know that it\'s anti-black,
and its

00:47:35.670 --> 00:47:39.120 align:middle line:84%
inflammatory racist material
that they\'ve put in here by a

00:47:39.120 --> 00:47:43.790 align:middle line:84%
pimp named Eldridge Cleaver, a
murderer named George Jackson,

00:47:43.790 --> 00:47:46.740 align:middle line:84%
and a psychopathic murderer
named Charles Manson.

00:47:46.740 --> 00:47:50.410 align:middle line:84%
He sort of launched his career
by appearing there and getting

00:47:50.410 --> 00:47:53.180 align:middle line:84%
in these rallies, and making
a name from himself.

00:47:53.180 --> 00:47:56.260 align:middle line:84%
At that time, he was not
an elected official.

00:47:56.260 --> 00:48:00.830 align:middle line:84%
Just brought him in, because
they want to profit for their

00:48:00.830 --> 00:48:05.100 align:middle line:84%
own causes, what was
going on here.

00:48:05.100 --> 00:48:06.010 align:middle line:90%
So it was--

00:48:06.010 --> 00:48:10.690 align:middle line:84%
I\'d say was something that
further inflamed the

00:48:10.690 --> 00:48:11.780 align:middle line:90%
differences we had.

00:48:11.780 --> 00:48:15.035 align:middle line:84%
Our only [INAUDIBLE] is
to go back to school.

00:48:15.035 --> 00:48:17.360 align:middle line:84%
There\'s nothing to
be scared of.

00:48:17.360 --> 00:48:18.750 align:middle line:90%
They teach--

00:48:18.750 --> 00:48:26.310 align:middle line:84%
They succeeded in getting the
books out of the classrooms, I

00:48:26.310 --> 00:48:28.730 align:middle line:84%
suppose, in all schools
in the county.

00:48:28.730 --> 00:48:29.750 align:middle line:90%
Some of them were revamped.

00:48:29.750 --> 00:48:33.460 align:middle line:84%
A lot of the controversial
material was simply taken out.

00:48:33.460 --> 00:48:36.720 align:middle line:90%
And they were sanitized.

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But it put the fear of God into
publishers and educators

00:48:41.250 --> 00:48:43.630 align:middle line:84%
and superintendents, no
question about it.

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[CROWD RECITING \'PLEDGE
OF ALLEGIANCE\']

00:48:44.880 --> 00:48:52.680 align:middle line:90%

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That\'s the first time in my life
that I have ever known

00:48:56.790 --> 00:49:01.670 align:middle line:84%
Christian people to march
in a protest, or--

00:49:01.670 --> 00:49:03.620 align:middle line:90%
I like the word resistance.

00:49:03.620 --> 00:49:04.880 align:middle line:90%
To resist some things.

00:49:04.880 --> 00:49:06.790 align:middle line:84%
First time in my
life that I can

00:49:06.790 --> 00:49:09.900 align:middle line:90%
ever recall that happening.

00:49:09.900 --> 00:49:12.150 align:middle line:84%
Most of what I can recall
prior to that,

00:49:12.150 --> 00:49:14.120 align:middle line:90%
Christians did nothing.

00:49:14.120 --> 00:49:17.120 align:middle line:84%
Whatever came down the pike
was fine-- good, bad, or

00:49:17.120 --> 00:49:19.650 align:middle line:84%
in-between just don\'t
bother me.

00:49:19.650 --> 00:49:23.090 align:middle line:84%
Well, this was the first time
that I really recall

00:49:23.090 --> 00:49:25.560 align:middle line:90%
Christians being bothered.

00:49:25.560 --> 00:49:28.760 align:middle line:84%
And it was because it was
striking at their very soul.

00:49:28.760 --> 00:49:33.910 align:middle line:84%
We\'re told that a child can\'t
pray in the classroom, that

00:49:33.910 --> 00:49:36.830 align:middle line:84%
the Bible can\'t be read in the
classroom, that a picture that

00:49:36.830 --> 00:49:39.420 align:middle line:84%
hung on a wall for 30 years that
happened to be a picture

00:49:39.420 --> 00:49:42.540 align:middle line:84%
of Christ has to be taken
down, that the Ten

00:49:42.540 --> 00:49:43.790 align:middle line:84%
Commandments have to
be taken off the

00:49:43.790 --> 00:49:47.090 align:middle line:90%
wall of school buildings.

00:49:47.090 --> 00:49:49.300 align:middle line:90%
That\'s a recent change.

00:49:49.300 --> 00:49:50.880 align:middle line:84%
That was something that was
beginning to happen.

00:49:50.880 --> 00:49:55.400 align:middle line:84%
It\'s been something that there\'s
been attempts for a

00:49:55.400 --> 00:49:57.740 align:middle line:84%
long time to get this
movement going.

00:49:57.740 --> 00:50:01.260 align:middle line:84%
But it reached a head, I think,
about the time that I

00:50:01.260 --> 00:50:02.700 align:middle line:84%
was on the school board
in Kanawha County.

00:50:02.700 --> 00:50:05.560 align:middle line:84%
I think the fight really reached
a head at that point.

00:50:05.560 --> 00:50:09.990 align:middle line:84%
Now that the groundwork hadn\'t
been laid for a long time.

00:50:09.990 --> 00:50:14.630 align:middle line:90%
But there was an apex there.

00:50:14.630 --> 00:50:17.390 align:middle line:84%
Something new was happening
in that folks were

00:50:17.390 --> 00:50:18.170 align:middle line:90%
beginning to get--

00:50:18.170 --> 00:50:21.630 align:middle line:84%
I saw beginning to get organized
from the right.

00:50:21.630 --> 00:50:26.590 align:middle line:84%
And utilizing all the tools,
all the symbols, the words

00:50:26.590 --> 00:50:29.740 align:middle line:90%
from religion.

00:50:29.740 --> 00:50:36.770 align:middle line:84%
Bringing them together so that
a political program was being

00:50:36.770 --> 00:50:42.140 align:middle line:84%
fashioned with the blessing
of the religious symbols.

00:50:42.140 --> 00:50:46.540 align:middle line:84%
I think that we learned
that picking

00:50:46.540 --> 00:50:48.740 align:middle line:90%
your fight is important.

00:50:48.740 --> 00:50:54.370 align:middle line:84%
If you pick the right fight at
the right time, it can be

00:50:54.370 --> 00:50:55.862 align:middle line:90%
profitable.

00:50:55.862 --> 00:50:59.180 align:middle line:84%
I don\'t mean that
to sound venal.

00:50:59.180 --> 00:51:04.060 align:middle line:84%
By profitable, I mean you can
make your political points.

00:51:04.060 --> 00:51:06.130 align:middle line:90%
You can help--

00:51:06.130 --> 00:51:08.190 align:middle line:84%
if it turns out to be a case
like Kanawha County--

00:51:08.190 --> 00:51:10.690 align:middle line:84%
you can help the people
involved.

00:51:10.690 --> 00:51:14.500 align:middle line:84%
And you can become a force in
the political community.

00:51:14.500 --> 00:51:18.840 align:middle line:84%
I believe that that was the
beginning of, for want of a

00:51:18.840 --> 00:51:22.740 align:middle line:90%
better word, the Christian--

00:51:22.740 --> 00:51:24.960 align:middle line:84%
even hate the word \"Christian
Right.\"

00:51:24.960 --> 00:51:26.990 align:middle line:84%
We struggled all the time to
figure out tactics about how

00:51:26.990 --> 00:51:29.260 align:middle line:84%
to deal with this, this
strange phenomenon of

00:51:29.260 --> 00:51:31.800 align:middle line:84%
right-wing religion and
right-wing politics.

00:51:31.800 --> 00:51:34.520 align:middle line:84%
The wedding that was taking
place at that moment-- which

00:51:34.520 --> 00:51:36.770 align:middle line:84%
many of us didn\'t understand
fully at that time.

00:51:36.770 --> 00:51:40.150 align:middle line:90%
But now understand more fully.

00:51:40.150 --> 00:51:45.150 align:middle line:84%
I have just spent 10 days in
Washington, DC, meeting with

00:51:45.150 --> 00:51:49.540 align:middle line:84%
congressmen and senators and
leaders of government, going

00:51:49.540 --> 00:51:53.910 align:middle line:84%
to some of their offices and
having prayer with them,

00:51:53.910 --> 00:51:56.690 align:middle line:84%
because of all the recent events
that have taken place

00:51:56.690 --> 00:51:58.960 align:middle line:84%
in the United States and
the around the world

00:51:58.960 --> 00:52:00.620 align:middle line:90%
that involve Americans.

00:52:00.620 --> 00:52:03.032 align:middle line:90%
All of us are disturbed.

00:52:03.032 --> 00:52:05.120 align:middle line:90%
And we\'re concerned.

00:52:05.120 --> 00:52:08.910 align:middle line:84%
And I thought it would be
wonderful to have a man from

00:52:08.910 --> 00:52:13.090 align:middle line:84%
the United States Congress to
come and tell us what Christ

00:52:13.090 --> 00:52:17.820 align:middle line:84%
means to him at a time like this
when so many people have

00:52:17.820 --> 00:52:21.130 align:middle line:84%
been losing confidence
in their government.

00:52:21.130 --> 00:52:23.420 align:middle line:84%
Let\'s welcome Congressman
John Connally.

00:52:23.420 --> 00:52:28.020 align:middle line:90%
[CHEERING]

00:52:28.020 --> 00:52:30.290 align:middle line:84%
I wanted to know if
I could serve in

00:52:30.290 --> 00:52:31.200 align:middle line:90%
government or politics.

00:52:31.200 --> 00:52:32.960 align:middle line:84%
And I asked my pastor,
can a Christian

00:52:32.960 --> 00:52:34.660 align:middle line:90%
be involved in politics?

00:52:34.660 --> 00:52:37.720 align:middle line:90%
He said, sure, he ought to be.

00:52:37.720 --> 00:52:40.530 align:middle line:84%
Because government is ordained
by God, and if the good people

00:52:40.530 --> 00:52:43.806 align:middle line:84%
don\'t get involved, the
bad one surely will.

00:52:43.806 --> 00:52:46.220 align:middle line:84%
And he said, God told us to go
to all the world, and preach

00:52:46.220 --> 00:52:46.890 align:middle line:90%
the gospel.

00:52:46.890 --> 00:52:48.700 align:middle line:84%
And he didn\'t limit
it geographically.

00:52:48.700 --> 00:52:51.600 align:middle line:84%
If the gospel is relevant in the
home, and in the schools

00:52:51.600 --> 00:52:53.720 align:middle line:90%
and the factory and the shop.

00:52:53.720 --> 00:52:57.870 align:middle line:84%
It\'s relevant in education, in
art, music, literature--

00:52:57.870 --> 00:53:01.870 align:middle line:84%
government and politics,
as well.

00:53:01.870 --> 00:53:04.890 align:middle line:84%
300 people out of the half a
million in my congressional

00:53:04.890 --> 00:53:07.040 align:middle line:84%
district basically put me in
the United States Congress

00:53:07.040 --> 00:53:10.320 align:middle line:84%
because they went door to
door saying they thought

00:53:10.320 --> 00:53:11.950 align:middle line:90%
I was a good man.

00:53:11.950 --> 00:53:14.610 align:middle line:84%
And those communicators
shared the good

00:53:14.610 --> 00:53:16.310 align:middle line:90%
word about me to others.

00:53:16.310 --> 00:53:17.850 align:middle line:90%
And I won.

00:53:17.850 --> 00:53:19.130 align:middle line:84%
That can be done in
any congressional

00:53:19.130 --> 00:53:20.170 align:middle line:90%
district across America.

00:53:20.170 --> 00:53:22.490 align:middle line:84%
10 or 50 people in any
legislative district can put a

00:53:22.490 --> 00:53:26.790 align:middle line:90%
good man in, or a bad man out.

00:53:26.790 --> 00:53:31.040 align:middle line:84%
These are times-- they are
serious times for America.

00:53:31.040 --> 00:53:34.231 align:middle line:84%
And the Bible tells us
to go into all areas.

00:53:34.231 --> 00:53:36.785 align:middle line:84%
The Bible tells us to pray
for our leaders.

00:53:36.785 --> 00:53:39.310 align:middle line:84%
Good Christians don\'t have to
be second class citizens,

00:53:39.310 --> 00:53:39.960 align:middle line:90%
backed in the woodwork.

00:53:39.960 --> 00:53:41.480 align:middle line:84%
They can be involved-- and
should be involved.

00:53:41.480 --> 00:53:42.810 align:middle line:90%
It\'s your country.

00:53:42.810 --> 00:53:45.155 align:middle line:84%
Pray for it, and give us
more men in Washington.

00:53:45.155 --> 00:53:46.820 align:middle line:84%
And give us more men in
your state capitols.

00:53:46.820 --> 00:53:49.180 align:middle line:84%
And give us more men on
your school boards.

00:53:49.180 --> 00:53:53.670 align:middle line:84%
And more women who are unafraid
to seek God\'s wisdom.

00:53:53.670 --> 00:54:22.380 align:middle line:90%
[SINGING]

00:54:22.380 --> 00:54:25.700 align:middle line:84%
And everybody is asking what
does it means it mean to be

00:54:25.700 --> 00:54:26.690 align:middle line:90%
born again?

00:54:26.690 --> 00:54:29.810 align:middle line:84%
In part three of With God on
Our Side, evangelicals come

00:54:29.810 --> 00:54:32.520 align:middle line:84%
into their own in
the late 1970s.

00:54:32.520 --> 00:54:34.700 align:middle line:84%
The most important thing in
my life is Jesus Christ.

00:54:34.700 --> 00:54:38.800 align:middle line:84%
It was a brand new phenomena
to have a man running for

00:54:38.800 --> 00:54:42.310 align:middle line:84%
president who would so clearly
state his faith.

00:54:42.310 --> 00:54:43.660 align:middle line:84%
And then they began
to find that this

00:54:43.660 --> 00:54:45.110 align:middle line:90%
politics were more liberal.

00:54:45.110 --> 00:54:49.070 align:middle line:90%
And then they got confused.

00:54:49.070 --> 00:54:50.190 align:middle line:90%
The Carter years--

00:54:50.190 --> 00:54:51.794 align:middle line:90%
next time.

00:54:51.794 --> 00:55:47.030 align:middle line:90%
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Donner Foundation, the Nathan
Cummings Foundation, and the

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John D. and Catherine T.
MacArthur Foundation.

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Additional funding was provided
by the following.

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