Guns and Mothers

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Two advocacy groups, The Million Moms and the Second Amendment Sisters, are diametrically opposed on gun control, but they agree on one point: mothers will and should have a voice in determining gun control policy in America. GUNS and MOTHERS explores the grassroots beliefs of both movements by focusing on two different women, living in two different Americas.
Frances Davis lives in Crown Heights, Brooklyn. Having lost all three of her sons to gun violence, she advocates for stronger gun control and supports the Million Moms. She and the Million Moms see stronger gun control laws as a way to prevent the alarmingly high number of deaths of young people from gun violence in America, an estimated 10 deaths per day.
Maria Heil has four children and lives in rural Pennsylvania. Convinced that a gun is a woman's best tool for self-defense, she's become active with the Second Amendment Sisters. These women believe guns are the most effective way a woman can protect herself and her family. They quote statistics about lives saved by the use of guns to support their views.
The film follows their parallel crusades over the course of a year, starting on Mother's Day 2000 when the two movements were born with the Million Mom March on Washington and the Second Amendment Sisters' smaller counter-rally that same day. Fueled by the national shock and outrage over the shootings at Columbine High School, the Million Moms were committed to using the wholesome image of mom and apple pie to get Congress to hear their concerns. With inside access to both sides, filmmaker Thom Powers shows how both the Million Moms and the NRA recruited women; how tempers flared around the gun issue; how presidential candidates handled the debate; and how the movements looked a year later.
Throughout the narrative, two keen observers of gun politics, author Robert Spitzer and New York Times journalist Fox Butterfield, shed light on the dialogue. As Butterfield says, 'People in America have two entirely different experiences with guns. As long as there's such a huge chasm between the two sides, it's very hard to get them agree on any new proposals. There appears to be no middle ground.'
' * * * -1/2 [3-1/2 Stars!] Sobering and gripping, this important film concludes with strong if depressing evidence that pro-gun lobbyists are much more effectively organized than those who oppose them. Highly Recommended!'-Video Librarian
'Recommended! An excellent job in proposing both sides of the gun control issue from two very diverse and diametrically opposed advocacy groups.'-Educational Media Reviews Online
'Heart-wrenching... An admirably respectful analysis of both sides of a divisive issue.'-Time Out
'Heartbreaking...A fair-minded treatment.'-The Kansas City Star
'An incisive exploration.'-Southwest Globe Times
Citation
Main credits
Powers, Thom (film director)
Powers, Thom (film producer)
Powers, Thom (screenwriter)
Spadola, Meema (film producer)
Walter, John (film producer)
Thorne, Tracy (narrator)
Other credits
Editor, John Walter; composer, Rick Baitz; camera, Matthew Akers [and 3 others].
Distributor subjects
African American Studies; American Studies; Conflict Resolution; Ethics; Gun Control / Gun RIghts; Health Care Issues; Law; Motherhood; Politics; Social Movements; Sociology; Titles on DVD; Urban Studies; Women's Studies; Youth IssuesKeywords
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Across America, gun violence
has claimed the lives of
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thousands of young people and
left behind grieving mothers,
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like Frances Davis.
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Oh, OK.
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Maybe I\'ll get one of these.
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Get the white one.
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White one?
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Yeah.
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I need two others.
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I\'ll just try something red.
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I need the ribbons.
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That one is going
to be for sons.
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They had to be young men.
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Excuse me?
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I said they had to
be young men.
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They were, indeed.
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Very young.
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I lost my oldest son in 1987.
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[INAUDIBLE] was 20 years old.
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Someone tried to rob him,
and he resisted,
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and he was shot once.
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My middle son Andrew in 1991.
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He was 22.
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Altercation in the street.
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People came back with guns, and
they shot him four times.
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He died 12 days later without
ever regaining consciousness.
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Franky, my youngest,
was 18 in 1993.
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As he was leaving his
grandmother\'s home to come
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home-- we were going on
vacation, a trip--
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he got shot.
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He was DOA when he got
to the hospital.
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[INAUDIBLE] when he was
smaller, Andrew.
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This is Franky when he
was a little older.
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He was about 15.
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Because I had great
plans for my life.
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I did not choose the
road I\'m on.
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The main thing I really share
with them is that even though
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they\'re not physically here
anymore, they\'re still here
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very much so in my soul.
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And a lot of what I do
is for them still.
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I miss you all, guys.
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Life is not the same
without you.
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But I\'ll be writing to
you later to tell you
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what I\'m up to, OK?
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You just don\'t know, so you
can\'t say not my child, it\'s
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not in my community, it\'s not
gonna happen over here, it\'s
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not gonna happen over there.
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It could happen to anybody at
any time, as long as there are
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so many guns available on the
streets, and there\'s so much
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anger out there.
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We have to get involved--
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In the early 1990s, Frances
became an activist, speaking
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out whenever she could
about the widespread
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availability of guns.
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And I pray to God that no one
really experiences the
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devastation of losing someone
to gun violence.
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Guns are a very divisive issue,
perhaps moreso than any
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other issue.
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Perhaps moreso, even,
than abortion.
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People in cities and people on
the gun control side tend to
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think of handguns, and people on
the other side, who are in
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favor of gun owners\' rights,
tend to think of rifles and
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shotguns, and to think that it\'s
a normal thing to have a
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gun around the house.
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And these two sides have a
really hard time talking to
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each other.
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On the other side of the gun
debate are mothers who believe
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guns are the best way to
protect their children.
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Mothers like Maria Heil.
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My husband realized that I
needed to be armed because of
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where we live and the response
time for police, and the fact
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that he can\'t always be here.
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He insisted that I learned
how to shoot.
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He\'s always bought me my guns.
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You have to be secure
in a marriage to
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buy your wife a gun.
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We all do shoot, and
we enjoy it.
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My husband, myself, my son,
and my oldest daughter.
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Let\'s get one of those
for at the house.
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My one daughter, she did
not like the shotgun.
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They kick too much for her.
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This past Christmas, from Santa,
she got an air rifle.
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No kick at all.
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Yeah, I know.
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Armed with pride, I know.
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She loves it.
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And we\'ll stand out on our
deck, and we\'ve got
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farmland behind us.
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And we\'ll plink some
cans and stuff.
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And they love it.
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It\'s important to remember that
there are indeed millions
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and millions of responsible
gun owners, and usually
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they\'re people who engage in
hunting and sporting who
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understand the dangers of guns,
who are responsible in
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the use of guns, and for whom
the presence of guns in their
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daily lives does not pose an
immediate threat or problem in
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the way that it does in other
places in society.
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That indeed is part
of the positive
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element of the gun culture.
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Ooh, I hope they put my recoil
pan on, because this one\'s cut
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down for [INAUDIBLE].
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And I put that slip on pad.
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And if I don\'t have it, then
I\'ll have an excuse for how
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poorly I\'m shooting.
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Criminals will not target men
who appear to be strong.
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They\'ll target the weak.
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And women, overall, are seen
as the weaker sex.
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Women are taking it
up in the droves.
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It\'s fun, it\'s a way to get
out of the house, it\'s an
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outdoor sporting activity
that women can do.
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And women can also socialize
while they\'re doing it.
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Pull!
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It is empowering.
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I don\'t like to use the word
feminist, but when a woman can
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carry a handgun for self
defense, a woman has equality.
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That was impressive.
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And if the so-called feminist
movement is about equality,
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then I guess I would
be a feminist.
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I had a lady down the road--
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a man broke into the house.
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She went to her son\'s room,
retrieved his gun, held this
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guy at gunpoint until the
police could get there.
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The gun wasn\'t even loaded.
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But the criminal\'s not going
to take that chance.
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He sees a gun, he freezes.
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When 15 people were massacred
at Columbine High School in
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1999, the debate over gun
control intensified.
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Million Mom March.
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The next year, anticipating the
presidential election, a
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new organization called the
Million Mom March prepared for
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a rally in Washington, DC,
framing gun control as a
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women\'s issue.
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We do know from public opinion
polls that women are more
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strongly pro-gun control
than men.
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But the Million Mom March
movement did represent
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something of a sea change
with regard to how
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that effort was mobilized.
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We need to march on Washington
on one of my favorite days of
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the year, Mother\'s
Day, May 14th.
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And that\'s exactly what
we are going to do.
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I want to get a name, and I want
to get a phone number.
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Oh, OK.
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It is an attempt to set up an
opposing symbol-- an opposing
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archetype of what America
is about.
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We\'re not America, the macho
nation, but America, the
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nation of motherhood
and apple pie.
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It\'s almost two weeks until
Mother\'s Day, so moms, it\'s
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almost time to gas up the
minivans and get to
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Washington.
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To use those values, to argue
forcefully that most women
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support these ideas, and to
transform these views into a
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political wedge to try and
leverage stronger gun laws out
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of the national government.
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Tell your friends that
it\'s just one day.
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What\'s the big deal?
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You can have dinner on Monday.
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Have your husband take
you out on Saturday.
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Sunday, May 14th, Washington.
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Be there.
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The Million Mom March
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attracted hundreds of thousands.
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Many only knew about guns
from media coverage.
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Other mothers, like Frances
Davis, came to share their
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personal experiences.
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My son went on vacation to
Chicago this past summer, and
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was gunned down.
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He was gunned down.
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They never found who did
it, why it happened.
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Just shot in the head and
died, 17 years old.
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So we\'re here.
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It\'s too late for him, but we\'re
here to try and save
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other children.
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(CHANTING) Save our kids!
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Save our kids!
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Save our kids!
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I\'m working today in honor of
my stepson, who was bipolar,
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and turned in his camera to a
shop and received a gun in
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return, and committed suicide
that same day.
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(CHANTING) NRA, go away!
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NRA, go away!
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NRA, go away!
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I lost my son four years
ago to gun violence.
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It\'s hard, but I\'m here, and
I\'m fighting for this.
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I don\'t know how long
it\'s going to take,
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but I\'ll keep on.
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If there\'s every day a Million
Mom March, I\'m going to be
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here for that Million
Mom March.
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Yes.
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I will be here.
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(CHANTING) Q R S T U V, or
in Congress you won\'t be.
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A B C D E F G, keep those
guns away from me.
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It\'s different than the last
time I was down here.
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Where was that?
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By the water, right?
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Yeah.
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On Mother\'s Day, you would
love to have your
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children with you.
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I would love to hear someone
call me mommy on Mother\'s Day.
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So that\'s not happening.
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And for me, it\'s important
to bring awareness to the
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violence in this country, and
hopefully, that really,
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mothers don\'t have to be sad
like we are on Mother\'s Day.
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And it\'s also an honor to be
able to stand for our children
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on Mother\'s Day, because they\'re
not here to stand for
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themselves.
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I was out there doing
a lot of this stuff.
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I didn\'t have other
mothers with me.
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Unfortunately, the tragedies
that do happen in schools, and
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especially suburban schools,
are like a wake up call.
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Who would think that a child
could be murdered in school?
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I mean, it does not matter
where you live.
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And it\'s not just an urban
problem, it\'s a problem in
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this country.
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I\'ve met people that have lost
kids that were killed in some
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of the smallest towns.
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You wouldn\'t even know
they\'re on the map.
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But now the shift is that it
could happen to anybody, and
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no child is really safe.
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And we have to start thinking
not just my
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child, but our children.
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Abraham Lincoln, John and Robert
Kennedy, and Martin
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Luther King, Jr., are not here
to lead us out of the
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wilderness of violence
that killed them.
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But mothers and grandmothers
and others, we\'re here, and
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we\'re going to love our children
more than the NRA
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loves their guns.
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Gun control--
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we do need, because I really
feel that every citizen really
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should not be armed.
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Guns do kill people.
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People with guns kill people.
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Tell that to the families and
the young people that have
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been murdered with guns.
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Across the Washington Mall, a
counter demonstration was held
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by a group called the Second
Amendment Sisters.
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Their crowd was much smaller,
but they made the point that
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not all mothers favor
gun control.
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Yes, I am.
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I am somebody.
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One of the organizers
was Maria Heil.
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Thank you very much.
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Second Amendment Sisters
actually started in
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January of this year.
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Five women who met in a chat
room, and they were tired of
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hearing about all this
Million Mom lies that
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are being put forth.
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So they decided to organize
and do a counter march.
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Second Amendment Sisters was
formed in response to the
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Million Mommers.
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And in 4 and 1/2 months, these
five women accomplished so
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much it\'s incredible.
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We made history by doing it all
on the internet, and by
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being women standing up for our
Second Amendment rights.
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The media\'s misconception is the
same misconception they\'re
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getting from the Million Moms.
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The main one they\'re putting out
is that 12 children a day,
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and that\'s an out and out lie.
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You have to delve into how
they define children.
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Yes, there are 12 a day, but
that\'s for 20 and under.
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That includes the highest crime
group there is, the 15
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to 20-year-olds.
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So most of that 12 children a
day is including criminals.
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Gang members who kill
other gang members.
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Police who kill criminals.
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Citizens, ordinary citizens, who
defend themselves and kill
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a criminal.
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The Million Moms are putting out
this information, and the
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mainstream media just repeats
it, repeats it, repeats it,
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and they make it sound like
that\'s the truth, that\'s the
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truth, because it\'s all
over the place.
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But that\'s not the truth, and
people need to do their own
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research and find out
what the truth is.
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And we have the truth
on our side.
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The fact that it was organized
by women was an effort by gun
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rights people to say, look, this
isn\'t just a male issue.
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Women own guns, too.
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Women are concerned
about gun rights.
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Their very name of the
organization, the Second
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Amendment Sisters, I think
represented an attempt to try
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and find an alternate symbol
that would evoke more than
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just women carrying guns.
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They were certainly looking
for a different kind of
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symbolism that would counteract
the mom and apple
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pie symbolism associated with
the Million Mom organization.
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I had a niece killed May 30,
1999, by an attempted
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carjacking.
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But I still contend it
was not the gun.
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It\'s going to have to be
a change of heart.
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You can have all the
gun laws you want.
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Until the man\'s heart is
changed, he\'s going to still
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do you do what he wants to do.
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You can ban guns in the United
States altogether.
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You\'re not going to keep
guns out of the
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hands of the criminals.
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Way to go.
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Way to go.
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Until six weeks ago, I was
just a mom, which is a
00:16:16.680 --> 00:16:18.380 align:middle line:90%
difficult enough task.
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But now, I\'m a Second
Amendment Sister.
00:16:20.585 --> 00:16:23.380 align:middle line:90%
00:16:23.380 --> 00:16:27.130 align:middle line:84%
What got me started with SAS was
when I stumbled across the
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Million Mom website.
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They state, and I quote,
\"Regardless of the
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interpretation, the Second
Amendment is
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irrelevant.\" End quote.
00:16:36.520 --> 00:16:39.180 align:middle line:90%
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Bad things happen with guns,
and guns can make it easier
00:16:42.630 --> 00:16:44.610 align:middle line:90%
for bad things to happen.
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But guns also prevent bad things
from happening and make
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it easier for people to
defend themselves.
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By far the safest course of
action for a woman to take
00:16:53.350 --> 00:16:57.280 align:middle line:84%
when she\'s confronted by a
criminal is to have a gun.
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My ex-husband turned up on the
front step of my mom\'s house,
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4AM, beating on the door,
demanding to be let in, and
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promising that once he gained
entry, I would die.
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I grabbed the phone
and dialed 911.
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I grabbed the firearm, and in
that amount of time, he
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successfully broke in
through the back
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door of my mom\'s home.
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I ran through the front door
with him hot on my heels,
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wherein I turned the firearm
on him and waited
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until police arrived.
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I would like to pose
a question to
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the Million Mom March.
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Is your conviction against use
of firearms for defensive
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purposes strong enough that if
you, or, God forbid, one of
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your children, were being
attacked, and I happened upon
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the scene with my legally
concealed firearm, would you
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turn my help away, saying, \"I\'ll
wait for the police\"?
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Thank you for helping me support
my right to defend
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myself with a firearm, and
thank God we\'re alive
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today to say it.
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We have had enough.
00:18:03.630 --> 00:18:06.690 align:middle line:90%
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We want all guns registered,
all gun
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owners to have a license.
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We want child safety locks.
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We vote.
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Are you listening, Congress?
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Senators, we vote, and we
will be watching you.
00:18:20.395 --> 00:18:23.980 align:middle line:90%
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Nothing like this has ever
happened before.
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And we\'ve been doing things as
a family for over 10 years,
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and this is kind
of historical.
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So I think it\'s a step in
the right direction.
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If we go back to the
communities, and we keep the
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same pace, and the
same excitement.
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And you have to understand
that this is just
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not an urban problem.
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This is an American problem.
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All across this country,
children are dying.
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And as I\'m speaking to you now,
and the rally is ending,
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and as the rally begins, there
are some children who have
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lost their life.
00:18:58.770 --> 00:19:03.650 align:middle line:90%
00:19:03.650 --> 00:19:05.850 align:middle line:84%
The Million Mom March was
one of the largest mass
00:19:05.850 --> 00:19:09.225 align:middle line:84%
demonstrations of any kind ever
held in Washington, DC.
00:19:09.225 --> 00:19:11.740 align:middle line:90%
00:19:11.740 --> 00:19:15.840 align:middle line:84%
As an expression of popular
indignation and popular
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concern, it did grab a lot of
attention, including the
00:19:19.070 --> 00:19:20.320 align:middle line:90%
attention of lawmakers.
00:19:20.320 --> 00:19:25.920 align:middle line:90%
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But the larger problem, I think,
is taking these many
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voices and bringing them
together to offer a unified
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political message.
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You don\'t change public policy
overnight, and you typically
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don\'t change public policy
simply by having a single
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large march.
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The big question is
what happens when
00:19:46.910 --> 00:19:48.125 align:middle line:90%
everybody goes home?
00:19:48.125 --> 00:19:49.710 align:middle line:84%
What happens when the
march is over?
00:19:49.710 --> 00:20:01.530 align:middle line:90%
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Do you feel that incredible
energy in the air here today?
00:20:05.770 --> 00:20:08.970 align:middle line:90%
00:20:08.970 --> 00:20:10.890 align:middle line:90%
I\'ll tell you what it is.
00:20:10.890 --> 00:20:14.380 align:middle line:84%
It\'s the feeling you get when
you\'re making a difference in
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the future of your country.
00:20:16.080 --> 00:20:21.040 align:middle line:90%
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One week after Mother\'s Day, the
National Rifle Association
00:20:24.270 --> 00:20:27.330 align:middle line:90%
held its annual convention.
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The upcoming presidential
election
00:20:29.100 --> 00:20:31.260 align:middle line:90%
was high on the agenda.
00:20:31.260 --> 00:20:36.920 align:middle line:84%
The NRA is about responsible
gun ownership.
00:20:36.920 --> 00:20:39.610 align:middle line:84%
They have educated more people
and probably saved more lives
00:20:39.610 --> 00:20:42.950 align:middle line:84%
than the Million Moms
ever would hope to.
00:20:42.950 --> 00:20:45.190 align:middle line:84%
Yes, we want to protect
children, but they\'re at one
00:20:45.190 --> 00:20:47.410 align:middle line:84%
end of the spectrum, and
we\'re at the other.
00:20:47.410 --> 00:20:50.160 align:middle line:84%
They\'re being used by the
Clinton Gore administration.
00:20:50.160 --> 00:20:53.240 align:middle line:84%
Just as Mother\'s Day was used
to make a political point,
00:20:53.240 --> 00:20:55.690 align:middle line:84%
these mothers are being used
to make a political point.
00:20:55.690 --> 00:20:58.460 align:middle line:90%
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I wish more people would
do what I\'ve done--
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be a member of the NRA,
and get active.
00:21:03.528 --> 00:21:06.670 align:middle line:90%
00:21:06.670 --> 00:21:09.314 align:middle line:84%
Look at the size of that
lens over there.
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Yeah.
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Paparazzi.
00:21:11.162 --> 00:21:11.624 align:middle line:90%
[INAUDIBLE].
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You really do.
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God love you.
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You\'ve got a great mommy,
[INAUDIBLE].
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You know that.
00:21:15.460 --> 00:21:16.770 align:middle line:84%
You knew that before
I did, right?
00:21:16.770 --> 00:21:22.050 align:middle line:90%
00:21:22.050 --> 00:21:24.860 align:middle line:84%
It\'s the single most important
issue that there
00:21:24.860 --> 00:21:27.000 align:middle line:90%
is for these folks.
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It\'s a matter of
faith, really.
00:21:30.660 --> 00:21:34.680 align:middle line:84%
For them, this goes
beyond ideology.
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It\'s almost a religious issue.
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They see gun control as really
being against, you could say,
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their religion.
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So they become zealots
about it.
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And they are well organized, and
they\'ve been able to raise
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a lot of money, which
they contribute to
00:21:52.680 --> 00:21:54.700 align:middle line:90%
politicians\' campaigns.
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And so we see in state after
state that they\'re able to
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prevail, even where the polls
may show a majority of the
00:22:01.590 --> 00:22:04.670 align:middle line:84%
people actually favor more
forms of gun control.
00:22:04.670 --> 00:22:07.780 align:middle line:90%
00:22:07.780 --> 00:22:11.030 align:middle line:84%
They do tend to think that the
government is always ready to
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come and take away our guns,
and they do tend to believe
00:22:13.970 --> 00:22:17.880 align:middle line:84%
that America was founded upon
guns, and it was through our
00:22:17.880 --> 00:22:20.870 align:middle line:84%
guns that we resisted the King
of England, and that the whole
00:22:20.870 --> 00:22:25.850 align:middle line:84%
nation is, in essence,
based on guns.
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Come November 7th, freedom
loving American moms will join
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all Americans to say, we don\'t
want you in our lives.
00:22:36.120 --> 00:22:39.610 align:middle line:84%
We don\'t want you breathing
down our necks, Mr. Gore.
00:22:39.610 --> 00:22:46.190 align:middle line:84%
And every mom I know, Mr. Gore,
sure doesn\'t want you in
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the White House.
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Thank you.
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From now until November, we\'re
going to be involved in state
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rallies and voter
registration.
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We feel it\'s very important that
everyone who supports the
00:23:00.920 --> 00:23:04.890 align:middle line:84%
Second Amendment registers to
vote and exercises their
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privilege to vote.
00:23:08.080 --> 00:23:10.635 align:middle line:84%
Most Americans are not very
much engaged in politics.
00:23:10.635 --> 00:23:13.250 align:middle line:90%
00:23:13.250 --> 00:23:16.620 align:middle line:84%
Barely 50% of Americans eligible
to vote actually do
00:23:16.620 --> 00:23:19.550 align:middle line:90%
vote when they get the chance.
00:23:19.550 --> 00:23:21.870 align:middle line:84%
The percentage of Americans that
do anything beyond the
00:23:21.870 --> 00:23:25.100 align:middle line:84%
act of voting, who actually read
campaign literature, or
00:23:25.100 --> 00:23:28.190 align:middle line:84%
who contribute money to a
campaign, or who write a
00:23:28.190 --> 00:23:31.450 align:middle line:84%
letter to an elected official,
or who attend a political
00:23:31.450 --> 00:23:33.010 align:middle line:90%
meeting is very small.
00:23:33.010 --> 00:23:35.165 align:middle line:84%
Remember that your
vote does count.
00:23:35.165 --> 00:23:38.288 align:middle line:84%
Think of those couple instances
where it comes down
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to one vote.
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So whatever you might say
about the National Rifle
00:23:41.740 --> 00:23:44.860 align:middle line:84%
Association and its members, one
of the primary reasons it
00:23:44.860 --> 00:23:47.280 align:middle line:84%
has been so effective is because
its members really do
00:23:47.280 --> 00:23:50.740 align:middle line:84%
care about politics, and will
participate in the political
00:23:50.740 --> 00:23:53.480 align:middle line:84%
process, doing all of those
extra things that most
00:23:53.480 --> 00:23:54.580 align:middle line:90%
Americans don\'t.
00:23:54.580 --> 00:23:57.180 align:middle line:84%
And no offense to you gentlemen
who carried the ball
00:23:57.180 --> 00:23:59.910 align:middle line:84%
for a long time, but I have to
tell you that when I put
00:23:59.910 --> 00:24:02.200 align:middle line:84%
together a group to go down
and see one of my elected
00:24:02.200 --> 00:24:04.800 align:middle line:84%
officials, I figure that
a woman is good
00:24:04.800 --> 00:24:06.050 align:middle line:90%
for about three men.
00:24:06.050 --> 00:24:10.580 align:middle line:90%
00:24:10.580 --> 00:24:12.770 align:middle line:90%
They are, in many respects, the
00:24:12.770 --> 00:24:15.490 align:middle line:90%
definition of the good citizen.
00:24:15.490 --> 00:24:18.350 align:middle line:84%
I\'d like to see all the
candidates who support the
00:24:18.350 --> 00:24:20.460 align:middle line:90%
Second Amendment win.
00:24:20.460 --> 00:24:23.710 align:middle line:84%
And what else can
I say to that?
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We are the Second Amendment
Sisters.
00:24:26.850 --> 00:24:33.080 align:middle line:84%
Women on Target\'s job is to
teach women that guns are fun,
00:24:33.080 --> 00:24:36.150 align:middle line:84%
and girls with guns have
more fun, and so do the
00:24:36.150 --> 00:24:37.570 align:middle line:90%
men that love them.
00:24:37.570 --> 00:24:45.000 align:middle line:90%
00:24:45.000 --> 00:24:48.260 align:middle line:84%
Among the NRA sessions held that
weekend was a relatively
00:24:48.260 --> 00:24:51.460 align:middle line:84%
new initiative to
recruit women.
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I think you have to see that as
part of this battle for the
00:24:55.340 --> 00:24:57.670 align:middle line:90%
allegiance of women.
00:24:57.670 --> 00:25:01.260 align:middle line:84%
Both sides have tried to get
to women, because that\'s a
00:25:01.260 --> 00:25:03.450 align:middle line:90%
large voting block.
00:25:03.450 --> 00:25:07.670 align:middle line:84%
And for the gun industry, a
large potential consumer.
00:25:07.670 --> 00:25:12.150 align:middle line:84%
Shooting and hunting are the
perfect sports for women.
00:25:12.150 --> 00:25:15.540 align:middle line:84%
The gun industry\'s made this big
campaign in the \'80s and
00:25:15.540 --> 00:25:18.720 align:middle line:84%
early \'90s to design weapons
specifically
00:25:18.720 --> 00:25:20.720 align:middle line:90%
tailored for women.
00:25:20.720 --> 00:25:23.940 align:middle line:84%
They would show pictures
of women shooting them.
00:25:23.940 --> 00:25:26.700 align:middle line:84%
They would talk about the
features that were for women
00:25:26.700 --> 00:25:27.950 align:middle line:90%
to make them easier to use.
00:25:27.950 --> 00:25:36.730 align:middle line:90%
00:25:36.730 --> 00:25:39.330 align:middle line:84%
Now, Ann\'s learning
about buck fever.
00:25:39.330 --> 00:25:42.080 align:middle line:84%
Her heart is pounding,
her pulse is racing.
00:25:42.080 --> 00:25:45.150 align:middle line:84%
She has waited for years for
this opportunity, and the
00:25:45.150 --> 00:25:47.810 align:middle line:84%
women of the NRA are proud
that we could share this
00:25:47.810 --> 00:25:49.300 align:middle line:90%
exciting moment with her.
00:25:49.300 --> 00:25:53.490 align:middle line:90%
00:25:53.490 --> 00:25:54.740 align:middle line:90%
Good shot.
00:25:54.740 --> 00:26:02.080 align:middle line:90%
00:26:02.080 --> 00:26:05.550 align:middle line:84%
That shows you what Women
on Target is about.
00:26:05.550 --> 00:26:12.040 align:middle line:84%
That shows you what women
just like us can do.
00:26:12.040 --> 00:26:13.230 align:middle line:90%
I\'m a Second Amendment Sister.
00:26:13.230 --> 00:26:14.480 align:middle line:90%
I was there last weekend.
00:26:14.480 --> 00:26:18.250 align:middle line:90%
00:26:18.250 --> 00:26:21.750 align:middle line:84%
I just wanted to say thank you
to the NRA, because I would
00:26:21.750 --> 00:26:24.200 align:middle line:84%
not have been involved in the
Second Amendment Sisters, and
00:26:24.200 --> 00:26:26.340 align:middle line:84%
we wouldn\'t have been there
last weekend if it
00:26:26.340 --> 00:26:27.500 align:middle line:90%
hadn\'t been for this.
00:26:27.500 --> 00:26:30.800 align:middle line:84%
The NRA has helped us
tremendously, and I urge
00:26:30.800 --> 00:26:33.270 align:middle line:84%
everyone to get involved in the
shooting sports, and take
00:26:33.270 --> 00:26:35.320 align:middle line:84%
other women shooting,
and particularly
00:26:35.320 --> 00:26:37.320 align:middle line:90%
if it\'s female reporters.
00:26:37.320 --> 00:26:38.160 align:middle line:90%
Helps tremendously.
00:26:38.160 --> 00:26:39.410 align:middle line:90%
Thank you.
00:26:39.410 --> 00:26:42.840 align:middle line:90%
00:26:42.840 --> 00:26:45.130 align:middle line:84%
Even though the women who formed
the Second Amendment
00:26:45.130 --> 00:26:47.480 align:middle line:84%
Sisters have been quick to point
out that they\'re not the
00:26:47.480 --> 00:26:50.630 align:middle line:84%
puppet of the NRA, it is
equally clear that the
00:26:50.630 --> 00:26:54.990 align:middle line:84%
political strategies, political
tactics, all of the
00:26:54.990 --> 00:26:58.140 align:middle line:84%
techniques that they have used
are techniques that have been
00:26:58.140 --> 00:27:03.930 align:middle line:84%
carefully developed and finely
honed by the National Rifle
00:27:03.930 --> 00:27:06.480 align:middle line:90%
Association and its allies.
00:27:06.480 --> 00:27:08.980 align:middle line:84%
Which, indeed, these are tactics
that have been fairly
00:27:08.980 --> 00:27:10.050 align:middle line:90%
successful.
00:27:10.050 --> 00:27:12.430 align:middle line:84%
The best way to start is
to write a letter.
00:27:12.430 --> 00:27:15.110 align:middle line:84%
And in this letter, you\'re going
to tell the potential
00:27:15.110 --> 00:27:18.590 align:middle line:84%
donor what the event is about,
some demographics of who\'s
00:27:18.590 --> 00:27:19.810 align:middle line:90%
going to come to this event.
00:27:19.810 --> 00:27:22.830 align:middle line:84%
Talk about how women control
most of the disposable income
00:27:22.830 --> 00:27:23.940 align:middle line:90%
in this country.
00:27:23.940 --> 00:27:25.990 align:middle line:84%
They decide what sports
their children are
00:27:25.990 --> 00:27:28.090 align:middle line:90%
going to engage in.
00:27:28.090 --> 00:27:31.190 align:middle line:84%
This is a very good audience
for businesses to reach.
00:27:31.190 --> 00:27:35.540 align:middle line:84%
Because if you don\'t do
it, nobody else will.
00:27:35.540 --> 00:27:37.050 align:middle line:90%
It won\'t be done.
00:27:37.050 --> 00:27:41.280 align:middle line:84%
And yours is the most important
voice in the gun
00:27:41.280 --> 00:27:43.880 align:middle line:84%
battle, the battle for
the Second Amendment.
00:27:43.880 --> 00:27:47.640 align:middle line:90%
00:27:47.640 --> 00:27:49.660 align:middle line:84%
The Second Amendment says
this-- it says \"A well
00:27:49.660 --> 00:27:52.745 align:middle line:84%
regulated militia being
necessary to the security of a
00:27:52.745 --> 00:27:55.520 align:middle line:84%
free State, the right of the
people to keep and bear arms
00:27:55.520 --> 00:28:00.020 align:middle line:90%
shall not be infringed.\"
00:28:00.020 --> 00:28:02.800 align:middle line:84%
As a matter of law, the
relevance of the Second
00:28:02.800 --> 00:28:06.980 align:middle line:84%
Amendment to the modern gun
control debate and controversy
00:28:06.980 --> 00:28:10.910 align:middle line:90%
is really very, very little.
00:28:10.910 --> 00:28:13.840 align:middle line:84%
There\'s never been a law that
has been struck down as in
00:28:13.840 --> 00:28:16.230 align:middle line:84%
violation of the US
Constitution\'s Second
00:28:16.230 --> 00:28:18.690 align:middle line:84%
Amendment in all of our history,
and there\'s certainly
00:28:18.690 --> 00:28:22.080 align:middle line:84%
been numerous such challenges,
including many challenges in
00:28:22.080 --> 00:28:24.080 align:middle line:90%
recent years.
00:28:24.080 --> 00:28:26.750 align:middle line:84%
All of those court decisions
say essentially the same
00:28:26.750 --> 00:28:29.420 align:middle line:84%
thing, which is that the Second
Amendment does protect
00:28:29.420 --> 00:28:32.580 align:middle line:84%
the rights of citizens to have
firearms, but only in
00:28:32.580 --> 00:28:34.500 align:middle line:84%
connection with a government
organized
00:28:34.500 --> 00:28:37.310 align:middle line:90%
and regulated militia.
00:28:37.310 --> 00:28:40.540 align:middle line:84%
So its symbol value as a part of
the Bill of Rights and the
00:28:40.540 --> 00:28:43.140 align:middle line:84%
Constitution becomes very
important the gun control
00:28:43.140 --> 00:28:45.750 align:middle line:84%
debate, and to some extent,
becomes divorced from what
00:28:45.750 --> 00:28:48.240 align:middle line:84%
courts have actually said the
Second Amendment means.
00:28:48.240 --> 00:28:50.740 align:middle line:90%
00:28:50.740 --> 00:28:52.020 align:middle line:90%
Well, growing up here--
00:28:52.020 --> 00:28:55.320 align:middle line:84%
I grew up in New York, born
and raise in New York.
00:28:55.320 --> 00:28:59.980 align:middle line:84%
As I grew up and was younger,
it was a sense of community.
00:28:59.980 --> 00:29:04.250 align:middle line:84%
And I never really knew of
anyone that had a gun.
00:29:04.250 --> 00:29:09.790 align:middle line:84%
Guns in our mind as kids were
always police, soldiers.
00:29:09.790 --> 00:29:12.830 align:middle line:84%
Every now and then, kids will
have a BB gun, and think that
00:29:12.830 --> 00:29:15.620 align:middle line:84%
was the biggest extent
of a gun.
00:29:15.620 --> 00:29:18.850 align:middle line:84%
But I\'ve never seen
a gun in my home.
00:29:18.850 --> 00:29:24.490 align:middle line:84%
But as the \'80s came in, young
people wanted powerful guns.
00:29:24.490 --> 00:29:29.770 align:middle line:84%
They wanted Uzis and machine
guns, something that shoots 36
00:29:29.770 --> 00:29:33.290 align:middle line:84%
rounds, and they wanted
9mm, and they want
00:29:33.290 --> 00:29:34.690 align:middle line:90%
these powerful bullets.
00:29:34.690 --> 00:29:38.150 align:middle line:84%
And they had no idea what
this was all about.
00:29:38.150 --> 00:29:43.370 align:middle line:84%
Most Americans don\'t begin to
realize how much violence
00:29:43.370 --> 00:29:46.250 align:middle line:84%
there has been in the inner
cities, particularly in the
00:29:46.250 --> 00:29:48.450 align:middle line:90%
late \'80s and early \'90s.
00:29:48.450 --> 00:29:53.890 align:middle line:84%
The rate of violent crime
among all ages jumped
00:29:53.890 --> 00:29:57.310 align:middle line:84%
dramatically, particularly
among young kids.
00:29:57.310 --> 00:30:02.260 align:middle line:84%
So you had this incredible jump
in youth homicides that
00:30:02.260 --> 00:30:04.590 align:middle line:84%
kind of drove us off
the edge of the
00:30:04.590 --> 00:30:06.030 align:middle line:90%
charts on violent crime.
00:30:06.030 --> 00:30:08.770 align:middle line:90%
00:30:08.770 --> 00:30:12.990 align:middle line:84%
I call it like an
urban Holocaust.
00:30:12.990 --> 00:30:15.650 align:middle line:84%
During this Holocaust, I went
to funerals where the great
00:30:15.650 --> 00:30:20.400 align:middle line:84%
grandparents were introduced to
bury their children, their
00:30:20.400 --> 00:30:21.160 align:middle line:90%
great grands.
00:30:21.160 --> 00:30:24.540 align:middle line:84%
They\'ve outlived their
great grandchildren.
00:30:24.540 --> 00:30:27.720 align:middle line:84%
Sometimes, I couldn\'t go
to funerals in one day.
00:30:27.720 --> 00:30:29.550 align:middle line:84%
One would be across town,
one would be down.
00:30:29.550 --> 00:30:33.290 align:middle line:84%
I\'d have to say, I\'ve got
to go to this one.
00:30:33.290 --> 00:30:35.120 align:middle line:84%
Three in one week, right
in this neighborhood.
00:30:35.120 --> 00:30:38.740 align:middle line:84%
In nine days, we lost
three young men.
00:30:38.740 --> 00:30:40.850 align:middle line:84%
All three lived on
President Street.
00:30:40.850 --> 00:30:42.610 align:middle line:90%
One, two, three.
00:30:42.610 --> 00:30:44.150 align:middle line:84%
These are all funeral
announcements.
00:30:44.150 --> 00:30:45.450 align:middle line:84%
Every one of these funerals
I went to.
00:30:45.450 --> 00:30:46.620 align:middle line:90%
This is a special.
00:30:46.620 --> 00:30:49.720 align:middle line:84%
You wonder why I have these
four quarters here?
00:30:49.720 --> 00:30:53.655 align:middle line:84%
These four quarters, this young
man, he asked me for a
00:30:53.655 --> 00:30:55.710 align:middle line:90%
dollar for four quarters.
00:30:55.710 --> 00:30:58.270 align:middle line:84%
He gave me the four quarters, I
set them down in my ash tray
00:30:58.270 --> 00:31:00.930 align:middle line:84%
in my van, and before I
could spend those four
00:31:00.930 --> 00:31:02.570 align:middle line:90%
quarters, he was dead.
00:31:02.570 --> 00:31:04.390 align:middle line:90%
He had gotten killed.
00:31:04.390 --> 00:31:07.790 align:middle line:84%
Somebody said to me that
whenever a mother loses a
00:31:07.790 --> 00:31:12.820 align:middle line:84%
child, she takes on a permanent
look on their face.
00:31:12.820 --> 00:31:15.690 align:middle line:84%
So after this person said that
to me, I started looking at
00:31:15.690 --> 00:31:18.780 align:middle line:84%
the mothers I knew that
had lost children.
00:31:18.780 --> 00:31:23.700 align:middle line:84%
And it never failed that they
had this permanent look.
00:31:23.700 --> 00:31:28.875 align:middle line:84%
And though Miss Davis has one of
the most beautiful smiles,
00:31:28.875 --> 00:31:32.910 align:middle line:84%
beyond that smile, you could
see that look of maybe it\'s
00:31:32.910 --> 00:31:36.000 align:middle line:84%
anguish on her face for losing
three of her sons.
00:31:36.000 --> 00:31:40.905 align:middle line:84%
I mean, they say a mother goes
to the doors of death to bring
00:31:40.905 --> 00:31:41.950 align:middle line:90%
a child into the world.
00:31:41.950 --> 00:31:44.430 align:middle line:84%
And you birthed three sons, and
to see all three of them
00:31:44.430 --> 00:31:46.450 align:middle line:90%
taken from you.
00:31:46.450 --> 00:31:51.040 align:middle line:84%
It\'s as if it\'s more expected
and acceptable in the black
00:31:51.040 --> 00:31:54.140 align:middle line:90%
and Hispanic communities.
00:31:54.140 --> 00:31:56.960 align:middle line:84%
Sometimes, when there\'s killings
in inner cities and
00:31:56.960 --> 00:31:59.920 align:middle line:84%
black and Hispanic communities,
most of the
00:31:59.920 --> 00:32:04.100 align:middle line:84%
press, if it gets any press
coverage, is very negative.
00:32:04.100 --> 00:32:08.560 align:middle line:84%
It\'s always about
drugs and gangs.
00:32:08.560 --> 00:32:12.620 align:middle line:84%
When it happens in other
neighborhood that\'s more
00:32:12.620 --> 00:32:17.690 align:middle line:84%
affluent, white neighborhoods
and communities, it\'s more
00:32:17.690 --> 00:32:23.150 align:middle line:84%
devastating, because they put
more value on a white boy\'s
00:32:23.150 --> 00:32:26.815 align:middle line:84%
life than they do on a black
or Hispanic boy\'s life.
00:32:26.815 --> 00:32:30.110 align:middle line:84%
A white boy may one day grow
up to be president.
00:32:30.110 --> 00:32:33.370 align:middle line:84%
The black or Hispanic boy is
probably going to jail for
00:32:33.370 --> 00:32:35.140 align:middle line:84%
selling drugs or killing
someone.
00:32:35.140 --> 00:32:42.240 align:middle line:90%
00:32:42.240 --> 00:32:45.280 align:middle line:84%
Two months after Mother\'s Day,
the Republican Convention came
00:32:45.280 --> 00:32:47.170 align:middle line:90%
to Philadelphia.
00:32:47.170 --> 00:32:50.200 align:middle line:84%
In front of Independence Hall,
the opposing sides in the gun
00:32:50.200 --> 00:32:53.240 align:middle line:90%
control debate staged rallies.
00:32:53.240 --> 00:32:55.990 align:middle line:84%
A group called the Silent
March laid out shoes
00:32:55.990 --> 00:33:00.180 align:middle line:84%
representing a year\'s
worth of gun deaths.
00:33:00.180 --> 00:33:03.270 align:middle line:84%
Across the park, the Second
Amendment Sisters displayed
00:33:03.270 --> 00:33:06.320 align:middle line:84%
flags representing an estimated
number of lives
00:33:06.320 --> 00:33:08.350 align:middle line:84%
saved by defensive
use of guns.
00:33:08.350 --> 00:33:11.480 align:middle line:90%
00:33:11.480 --> 00:33:14.290 align:middle line:84%
Media outlets paid close
attention to where the gun
00:33:14.290 --> 00:33:15.540 align:middle line:90%
debate was heading.
00:33:15.540 --> 00:33:23.470 align:middle line:90%
00:33:23.470 --> 00:33:24.880 align:middle line:84%
Let me make sure I get your
name spelled correctly.
00:33:24.880 --> 00:33:25.700 align:middle line:90%
First name is?
00:33:25.700 --> 00:33:26.440 align:middle line:90%
Frances,
00:33:26.440 --> 00:33:28.290 align:middle line:90%
with an E. Frances.
00:33:28.290 --> 00:33:28.740 align:middle line:90%
F-R-A-N-C--
00:33:28.740 --> 00:33:29.790 align:middle line:90%
E-S.
00:33:29.790 --> 00:33:32.160 align:middle line:90%
What do you do for a living?
00:33:32.160 --> 00:33:33.954 align:middle line:90%
Right now, this is what I do.
00:33:33.954 --> 00:33:35.286 align:middle line:90%
Are these your sons here?
00:33:35.286 --> 00:33:35.730 align:middle line:90%
Yes.
00:33:35.730 --> 00:33:36.174 align:middle line:90%
OK.
00:33:36.174 --> 00:33:37.660 align:middle line:90%
And were they all killed?
00:33:37.660 --> 00:33:38.720 align:middle line:90%
They were, huh?
00:33:38.720 --> 00:33:39.970 align:middle line:90%
All killed.
00:33:39.970 --> 00:33:45.160 align:middle line:90%
00:33:45.160 --> 00:33:47.450 align:middle line:84%
As you can see, all
these shoes--
00:33:47.450 --> 00:33:48.790 align:middle line:90%
these are people.
00:33:48.790 --> 00:33:49.500 align:middle line:90%
Real people.
00:33:49.500 --> 00:33:52.640 align:middle line:90%
And they\'re gone.
00:33:52.640 --> 00:33:54.170 align:middle line:90%
Pretty graphic, huh?
00:33:54.170 --> 00:33:54.970 align:middle line:90%
Yes.
00:33:54.970 --> 00:33:56.960 align:middle line:90%
Yes.
00:33:56.960 --> 00:33:58.210 align:middle line:90%
Painful.
00:33:58.210 --> 00:33:59.820 align:middle line:90%
00:33:59.820 --> 00:34:02.110 align:middle line:84%
Even though there are a great
many guns in America,
00:34:02.110 --> 00:34:04.690 align:middle line:84%
estimates vary from roughly
200 million
00:34:04.690 --> 00:34:06.640 align:middle line:90%
to perhaps 240 million.
00:34:06.640 --> 00:34:10.620 align:middle line:84%
But the guns that are used in
violence tend to be a fairly
00:34:10.620 --> 00:34:11.810 align:middle line:90%
small subset of that.
00:34:11.810 --> 00:34:14.650 align:middle line:84%
That is, guns used in crimes
and in violence tend to be
00:34:14.650 --> 00:34:18.889 align:middle line:84%
guns that are purchased or
obtained relatively recently
00:34:18.889 --> 00:34:21.860 align:middle line:90%
after they were manufactured.
00:34:21.860 --> 00:34:24.270 align:middle line:84%
In New York state, for example,
police authorities
00:34:24.270 --> 00:34:28.260 align:middle line:84%
note that 9 out of 10 guns used
in gun violence come from
00:34:28.260 --> 00:34:30.710 align:middle line:84%
out of state, and the vast
majority of them come from the
00:34:30.710 --> 00:34:32.690 align:middle line:84%
few southern states where
it\'s relatively
00:34:32.690 --> 00:34:35.980 align:middle line:90%
easy to purchase handguns.
00:34:35.980 --> 00:34:39.330 align:middle line:84%
That is, New York state has very
tough gun laws, and it\'s
00:34:39.330 --> 00:34:42.449 align:middle line:84%
no coincidence that most guns
used in crimes are not
00:34:42.449 --> 00:34:43.889 align:middle line:90%
purchased in New York State.
00:34:43.889 --> 00:34:47.909 align:middle line:84%
So it does make the point that
tougher laws could indeed
00:34:47.909 --> 00:34:51.810 align:middle line:84%
constrict the flow of weapons
likely to be used in violence.
00:34:51.810 --> 00:34:54.920 align:middle line:84%
My first son, [INAUDIBLE],
was killed in 1987.
00:34:54.920 --> 00:34:57.120 align:middle line:90%
He was only 20 years old.
00:34:57.120 --> 00:34:58.550 align:middle line:90%
He wanted to be an architect.
00:34:58.550 --> 00:35:02.090 align:middle line:84%
And when he asked the question
to me if I thought he could do
00:35:02.090 --> 00:35:03.730 align:middle line:84%
it, I told him, of
course you can.
00:35:03.730 --> 00:35:06.310 align:middle line:84%
There was no reason that he
could not have been an
00:35:06.310 --> 00:35:08.370 align:middle line:84%
architect, if that
was his dream.
00:35:08.370 --> 00:35:12.010 align:middle line:84%
My child is gone forever,
and that\'s something I
00:35:12.010 --> 00:35:13.010 align:middle line:90%
have to live with.
00:35:13.010 --> 00:35:16.210 align:middle line:84%
But I still am involved
to fight the fight
00:35:16.210 --> 00:35:18.780 align:middle line:90%
to save other children.
00:35:18.780 --> 00:35:20.140 align:middle line:90%
Thanks for speaking out.
00:35:20.140 --> 00:35:21.190 align:middle line:90%
You\'re welcome.
00:35:21.190 --> 00:35:22.440 align:middle line:90%
Thank you.
00:35:22.440 --> 00:35:27.410 align:middle line:90%
00:35:27.410 --> 00:35:30.590 align:middle line:84%
This weekend, we\'re here
to educate people.
00:35:30.590 --> 00:35:34.400 align:middle line:84%
Further gun laws, whether they
be sensible or not, are
00:35:34.400 --> 00:35:38.000 align:middle line:84%
nonsensical, because they only
affect the law abiding citizen
00:35:38.000 --> 00:35:40.450 align:middle line:84%
who just wishes to be able
to defend themselves.
00:35:40.450 --> 00:35:43.800 align:middle line:84%
We want to educate them on the
Bill of Rights, the history
00:35:43.800 --> 00:35:45.520 align:middle line:84%
the Bill of Rights, and what
the Bill of Rights is.
00:35:45.520 --> 00:35:49.580 align:middle line:84%
Many people, if you say the Bill
of Rights to them, they
00:35:49.580 --> 00:35:51.800 align:middle line:84%
don\'t even know that it\'s the
first 10 amendments, and they
00:35:51.800 --> 00:35:54.240 align:middle line:84%
don\'t know how it
came into being.
00:35:54.240 --> 00:35:56.940 align:middle line:84%
Also, we\'re here to educate
people that firearms are a
00:35:56.940 --> 00:35:59.800 align:middle line:84%
positive thing, and that
firearms are used far more
00:35:59.800 --> 00:36:02.810 align:middle line:84%
often in defense than they are
ever used in the commission of
00:36:02.810 --> 00:36:06.030 align:middle line:84%
a crime, and that if you
restrict a person\'s right to
00:36:06.030 --> 00:36:08.270 align:middle line:84%
own a firearm, you\'re
restricting their right to
00:36:08.270 --> 00:36:10.820 align:middle line:90%
defend themselves.
00:36:10.820 --> 00:36:12.900 align:middle line:90%
I felt no need for them,
00:36:12.900 --> 00:36:15.700 align:middle line:90%
especially if you have children.
00:36:15.700 --> 00:36:17.190 align:middle line:84%
Nothing I ever wanted
to be around, would
00:36:17.190 --> 00:36:19.570 align:middle line:90%
never own, fire, touch.
00:36:19.570 --> 00:36:21.800 align:middle line:84%
I just was totally
against guns.
00:36:21.800 --> 00:36:23.870 align:middle line:84%
I would have been for
banning them.
00:36:23.870 --> 00:36:25.890 align:middle line:90%
I was trapped in my house.
00:36:25.890 --> 00:36:28.040 align:middle line:84%
I couldn\'t go out front, and
I couldn\'t go near my front
00:36:28.040 --> 00:36:29.910 align:middle line:84%
door, because it was glass, with
a man just standing out
00:36:29.910 --> 00:36:32.920 align:middle line:84%
there drunk, just popping off
his gun, waiting and hoping
00:36:32.920 --> 00:36:35.270 align:middle line:90%
the police department came.
00:36:35.270 --> 00:36:38.840 align:middle line:84%
The man was intoxicated,
firing off a handgun.
00:36:38.840 --> 00:36:40.460 align:middle line:90%
The neighbors called the cops.
00:36:40.460 --> 00:36:41.960 align:middle line:84%
I never called the cops,
because I live
00:36:41.960 --> 00:36:44.210 align:middle line:90%
next to this gentleman.
00:36:44.210 --> 00:36:47.110 align:middle line:84%
With that, he panicked,
and tried to get
00:36:47.110 --> 00:36:47.850 align:middle line:90%
through my front door.
00:36:47.850 --> 00:36:51.235 align:middle line:84%
Thankfully, my door was locked,
but I have a glass
00:36:51.235 --> 00:36:52.390 align:middle line:90%
front door, glass windows.
00:36:52.390 --> 00:36:55.490 align:middle line:84%
I stood in my kitchen with my
13-year-old son hiding in a
00:36:55.490 --> 00:36:57.490 align:middle line:90%
corner crying.
00:36:57.490 --> 00:36:58.060 align:middle line:90%
He was crying.
00:36:58.060 --> 00:36:59.510 align:middle line:90%
There was nothing I could do.
00:36:59.510 --> 00:37:03.190 align:middle line:84%
If the only way I survive is
to own a gun and be able to
00:37:03.190 --> 00:37:05.600 align:middle line:84%
use it, then that\'s
what I have to.
00:37:05.600 --> 00:37:09.950 align:middle line:84%
I know people that have died
violently from guns, but to be
00:37:09.950 --> 00:37:13.550 align:middle line:84%
totally helpless, and especially
a woman, or an old
00:37:13.550 --> 00:37:16.470 align:middle line:84%
person, whatever, you
need the choice.
00:37:16.470 --> 00:37:18.600 align:middle line:84%
You need to be able to
protect yourself.
00:37:18.600 --> 00:37:23.510 align:middle line:84%
Right now, we have 1,000
American flags, and each flag
00:37:23.510 --> 00:37:27.230 align:middle line:84%
represents 400 lives saved
in the span of a year.
00:37:27.230 --> 00:37:31.670 align:middle line:84%
So that is a total of 400,000
lives saved in one year by the
00:37:31.670 --> 00:37:33.297 align:middle line:90%
use of firearms.
00:37:33.297 --> 00:37:36.500 align:middle line:84%
Excuse me, but are you saying
it\'s good to have guns?
00:37:36.500 --> 00:37:37.460 align:middle line:90%
Is that your point?
00:37:37.460 --> 00:37:38.280 align:middle line:90%
That it\'s good?
00:37:38.280 --> 00:37:38.780 align:middle line:90%
Yes.
00:37:38.780 --> 00:37:39.230 align:middle line:90%
All right.
00:37:39.230 --> 00:37:40.170 align:middle line:84%
Well, I live in the city
of Philadelphia.
00:37:40.170 --> 00:37:42.810 align:middle line:84%
I have lived here
my entire life.
00:37:42.810 --> 00:37:45.920 align:middle line:84%
And the only people that I ever
know who have been hurt
00:37:45.920 --> 00:37:51.290 align:middle line:84%
or killed by guns are innocent
bystanders, period.
00:37:51.290 --> 00:37:53.060 align:middle line:84%
They did not have the guns
themselves to protect
00:37:53.060 --> 00:37:53.220 align:middle line:90%
themselves.
00:37:53.220 --> 00:37:56.700 align:middle line:84%
There\'s a direct friend of
mine whose 17 year old
00:37:56.700 --> 00:38:00.430 align:middle line:84%
daughter was killed by
a friend at a party.
00:38:00.430 --> 00:38:02.305 align:middle line:84%
The firearm owner is the
one who\'s responsible.
00:38:02.305 --> 00:38:04.020 align:middle line:90%
No, don\'t point at me, please.
00:38:04.020 --> 00:38:04.740 align:middle line:84%
I\'m sorry, but the firearm
owner is the one who is
00:38:04.740 --> 00:38:04.820 align:middle line:90%
responsible.
00:38:04.820 --> 00:38:09.340 align:middle line:84%
The only people that I have ever
met or known who have--
00:38:09.340 --> 00:38:10.200 align:middle line:90%
I will have no gun.
00:38:10.200 --> 00:38:12.310 align:middle line:84%
But how are you going to
protect yourself if a
00:38:12.310 --> 00:38:13.620 align:middle line:90%
criminal comes in?
00:38:13.620 --> 00:38:15.700 align:middle line:84%
How are you going to
protect yourself?
00:38:15.700 --> 00:38:16.776 align:middle line:84%
I\'m not concerned with it,
because I don\'t believe it
00:38:16.776 --> 00:38:17.090 align:middle line:90%
will happen.
00:38:17.090 --> 00:38:19.780 align:middle line:84%
There\'s a lot of contempt
that goes back and
00:38:19.780 --> 00:38:21.330 align:middle line:90%
forth on both sides.
00:38:21.330 --> 00:38:23.240 align:middle line:90%
I will not carry a gun.
00:38:23.240 --> 00:38:25.420 align:middle line:84%
I will not hold a
gun in my house.
00:38:25.420 --> 00:38:27.620 align:middle line:84%
And I do not believe that
we should have those
00:38:27.620 --> 00:38:28.370 align:middle line:90%
laws in this country.
00:38:28.370 --> 00:38:29.590 align:middle line:84%
And so these two sides
are talking over
00:38:29.590 --> 00:38:30.750 align:middle line:90%
each other\'s heads.
00:38:30.750 --> 00:38:32.650 align:middle line:84%
How do you know you\'ll
never be attacked?
00:38:32.650 --> 00:38:33.900 align:middle line:84%
No, I will not take a
gun into my life.
00:38:33.900 --> 00:38:35.930 align:middle line:90%
00:38:35.930 --> 00:38:38.280 align:middle line:84%
What would you use for your
method of defense?
00:38:38.280 --> 00:38:43.230 align:middle line:84%
I\'ve been to academic
conferences on gun laws, on
00:38:43.230 --> 00:38:44.320 align:middle line:90%
gun violence.
00:38:44.320 --> 00:38:47.700 align:middle line:84%
And academics can\'t talk
to each other.
00:38:47.700 --> 00:38:50.370 align:middle line:84%
They start screaming at each
other and question each
00:38:50.370 --> 00:38:52.230 align:middle line:90%
other\'s honesty and integrity.
00:38:52.230 --> 00:38:56.950 align:middle line:84%
Too many guns for no purpose,
and too many people dead.
00:38:56.950 --> 00:38:59.230 align:middle line:84%
We might as well ban cars
and swimming pools
00:38:59.230 --> 00:38:59.340 align:middle line:90%
and baseball bats--
00:38:59.340 --> 00:39:00.590 align:middle line:90%
Cars kill far more people.
00:39:00.590 --> 00:39:04.060 align:middle line:90%
00:39:04.060 --> 00:39:07.740 align:middle line:84%
In my experience, in trying to
have a rational discussion, if
00:39:07.740 --> 00:39:10.100 align:middle line:84%
you\'re talking to one side--
whichever side--
00:39:10.100 --> 00:39:13.160 align:middle line:84%
and you try to have a rational
discussion representing the
00:39:13.160 --> 00:39:15.400 align:middle line:90%
other side, it\'s impossible.
00:39:15.400 --> 00:39:17.718 align:middle line:84%
The criminal that attacked my
son is dead and in the ground,
00:39:17.718 --> 00:39:20.470 align:middle line:84%
and will never attack
anybody else.
00:39:20.470 --> 00:39:21.320 align:middle line:90%
You don\'t yell.
00:39:21.320 --> 00:39:22.750 align:middle line:84%
How come a lot of
people on your--
00:39:22.750 --> 00:39:25.480 align:middle line:84%
Criminals caused a lot
of dead people.
00:39:25.480 --> 00:39:26.940 align:middle line:90%
Criminals are gun owners too.
00:39:26.940 --> 00:39:34.640 align:middle line:90%
[ARGUING]
00:39:34.640 --> 00:39:36.900 align:middle line:84%
Why would you not want to have
gun owners licensed?
00:39:36.900 --> 00:39:38.673 align:middle line:84%
What possible reason
could you have for
00:39:38.673 --> 00:39:39.340 align:middle line:90%
not wanting gun owners--
00:39:39.340 --> 00:39:43.570 align:middle line:90%
[ARGUING]
00:39:43.570 --> 00:39:46.610 align:middle line:84%
How would you protect yourself
if someone came to attack you?
00:39:46.610 --> 00:39:50.840 align:middle line:84%
I am protecting myself by
standing here right now and
00:39:50.840 --> 00:39:51.890 align:middle line:90%
telling you that--
00:39:51.890 --> 00:39:51.932 align:middle line:90%
No, no.
00:39:51.932 --> 00:39:52.542 align:middle line:84%
I\'m asking you, if you were
attacked, how would you
00:39:52.542 --> 00:39:52.710 align:middle line:90%
protect yourself?
00:39:52.710 --> 00:39:55.000 align:middle line:84%
--it\'s wrong for everyone
in this country.
00:39:55.000 --> 00:39:55.220 align:middle line:90%
No, it\'s not safe enough.
00:39:55.220 --> 00:39:56.220 align:middle line:90%
That\'s for sure.
00:39:56.220 --> 00:39:58.430 align:middle line:84%
It ain\'t that safe in
my neighborhood.
00:39:58.430 --> 00:39:58.830 align:middle line:90%
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
00:39:58.830 --> 00:39:59.802 align:middle line:90%
I haven\'t said anything yet.
00:39:59.802 --> 00:40:03.010 align:middle line:90%
Shut the [BEEP]
00:40:03.010 --> 00:40:04.230 align:middle line:90%
up.
00:40:04.230 --> 00:40:06.910 align:middle line:84%
The last time there was serious
national discussion
00:40:06.910 --> 00:40:10.270 align:middle line:84%
about licensing and registration
of handguns was
00:40:10.270 --> 00:40:12.270 align:middle line:90%
in 1967 and \'68.
00:40:12.270 --> 00:40:15.990 align:middle line:84%
But from that time up until
2000, those subjects were not
00:40:15.990 --> 00:40:16.880 align:middle line:90%
even discussed.
00:40:16.880 --> 00:40:17.740 align:middle line:90%
They were taboo.
00:40:17.740 --> 00:40:20.990 align:middle line:84%
They were America\'s third rail,
as it were, when it came
00:40:20.990 --> 00:40:22.540 align:middle line:90%
to gun issues.
00:40:22.540 --> 00:40:26.840 align:middle line:84%
On guns, if somebody wants to
cast a vote based on your
00:40:26.840 --> 00:40:29.170 align:middle line:84%
differences, where\'s
the difference?
00:40:29.170 --> 00:40:33.270 align:middle line:84%
I do think that sensible
gun safety measures
00:40:33.270 --> 00:40:34.520 align:middle line:90%
are warranted now.
00:40:34.520 --> 00:40:38.500 align:middle line:84%
Look, this is in the aftermath
of Columbine.
00:40:38.500 --> 00:40:40.520 align:middle line:84%
Let me say something
about Columbine.
00:40:40.520 --> 00:40:42.410 align:middle line:90%
And we\'ve got gun laws.
00:40:42.410 --> 00:40:45.300 align:middle line:84%
He says we ought to have
gun free schools.
00:40:45.300 --> 00:40:46.350 align:middle line:90%
Everybody believes that.
00:40:46.350 --> 00:40:48.550 align:middle line:84%
I\'m sure every state in the
Union has got them.
00:40:48.550 --> 00:40:51.020 align:middle line:84%
You can\'t carry a gun
into a school.
00:40:51.020 --> 00:40:57.930 align:middle line:84%
The woman who bought the guns
for the two boys who did that
00:40:57.930 --> 00:41:03.970 align:middle line:84%
killing at Columbine said that
if she had had to give her
00:41:03.970 --> 00:41:07.380 align:middle line:84%
name and fill out a form there,
she would not have
00:41:07.380 --> 00:41:08.410 align:middle line:90%
bought those guns.
00:41:08.410 --> 00:41:10.800 align:middle line:84%
I disagree with the vice
president on this issue.
00:41:10.800 --> 00:41:12.540 align:middle line:90%
He\'s for registration of guns.
00:41:12.540 --> 00:41:14.325 align:middle line:84%
I think the only people who are
going to show up register
00:41:14.325 --> 00:41:15.330 align:middle line:90%
or get a license--
00:41:15.330 --> 00:41:17.660 align:middle line:84%
I guess licensing, like a
driver\'s license with a gun--
00:41:17.660 --> 00:41:18.720 align:middle line:84%
the only people who are
going to show up
00:41:18.720 --> 00:41:21.390 align:middle line:90%
are law biding citizens.
00:41:21.390 --> 00:41:24.010 align:middle line:84%
The criminal\'s not going to show
up and say hey, give me
00:41:24.010 --> 00:41:25.260 align:middle line:90%
my ID card.
00:41:25.260 --> 00:41:31.938 align:middle line:90%
00:41:31.938 --> 00:41:34.860 align:middle line:90%
OK, so pick your paint colors.
00:41:34.860 --> 00:41:38.780 align:middle line:90%
There\'s some trays.
00:41:38.780 --> 00:41:41.590 align:middle line:84%
In the wake of George Bush\'s
victory, the gun control
00:41:41.590 --> 00:41:43.410 align:middle line:90%
debate cooled down.
00:41:43.410 --> 00:41:46.500 align:middle line:84%
That didn\'t stop Frances Davis
from continuing to organize in
00:41:46.500 --> 00:41:48.250 align:middle line:90%
her community.
00:41:48.250 --> 00:41:51.670 align:middle line:84%
In spring 2001, she joined
with the Gorgeous Mosaic
00:41:51.670 --> 00:41:53.930 align:middle line:84%
Foundation to paint memorials
for children
00:41:53.930 --> 00:41:56.768 align:middle line:90%
killed by street violence.
00:41:56.768 --> 00:41:58.136 align:middle line:90%
What color do you want?
00:41:58.136 --> 00:42:00.235 align:middle line:90%
The green.
00:42:00.235 --> 00:42:01.840 align:middle line:90%
The green?
00:42:01.840 --> 00:42:05.270 align:middle line:84%
Basically, Frances and I, we
talk with mothers, because we
00:42:05.270 --> 00:42:07.450 align:middle line:84%
know what they\'re
going through.
00:42:07.450 --> 00:42:09.290 align:middle line:90%
This is a healing process.
00:42:09.290 --> 00:42:11.480 align:middle line:90%
This is part of healing.
00:42:11.480 --> 00:42:15.020 align:middle line:84%
Anytime you get an opportunity
to do something in memory of
00:42:15.020 --> 00:42:19.410 align:middle line:84%
your son, your loved one that
you\'ve lost, it\'s healing.
00:42:19.410 --> 00:42:19.860 align:middle line:90%
It\'s healing.
00:42:19.860 --> 00:42:22.860 align:middle line:84%
And once you see these mothers
come together, it\'s all a
00:42:22.860 --> 00:42:24.945 align:middle line:90%
healing process.
00:42:24.945 --> 00:42:26.630 align:middle line:90%
We\'re not alone.
00:42:26.630 --> 00:42:29.746 align:middle line:84%
Sometimes when it happens to
you, you feel you\'re alone at
00:42:29.746 --> 00:42:30.456 align:middle line:90%
that particular time.
00:42:30.456 --> 00:42:32.790 align:middle line:84%
But you\'re not, because
it\'s a lot of us.
00:42:32.790 --> 00:42:33.890 align:middle line:90%
And it\'s a shame.
00:42:33.890 --> 00:42:36.860 align:middle line:84%
There\'s so many of us that we
probably could fill up the
00:42:36.860 --> 00:42:40.930 align:middle line:84%
White House, and
the lawn, too.
00:42:40.930 --> 00:42:43.805 align:middle line:84%
I want that to be our
stamp, so they
00:42:43.805 --> 00:42:46.460 align:middle line:90%
know this is the community.
00:42:46.460 --> 00:42:50.640 align:middle line:84%
I believe that we have to
support young people.
00:42:50.640 --> 00:42:53.760 align:middle line:84%
Give them something different
besides guns.
00:42:53.760 --> 00:42:56.540 align:middle line:84%
Take away the need
to have a gun.
00:42:56.540 --> 00:43:00.950 align:middle line:84%
That\'s one of the reasons why
I put myself out and do this
00:43:00.950 --> 00:43:01.790 align:middle line:90%
type of thing.
00:43:01.790 --> 00:43:03.085 align:middle line:90%
It certainly isn\'t glamorous.
00:43:03.085 --> 00:43:08.360 align:middle line:84%
Who wants to be known as
losing three children?
00:43:08.360 --> 00:43:12.600 align:middle line:84%
But I want to say that they were
people, they had a right
00:43:12.600 --> 00:43:16.580 align:middle line:84%
to life, and someone made a
choice to take their life.
00:43:16.580 --> 00:43:20.590 align:middle line:90%
I miss him so much.
00:43:20.590 --> 00:43:21.790 align:middle line:90%
Please.
00:43:21.790 --> 00:43:23.090 align:middle line:90%
I miss him.
00:43:23.090 --> 00:43:25.109 align:middle line:90%
And if it\'s wrong, I\'m sorry.
00:43:25.109 --> 00:43:28.532 align:middle line:84%
But I miss him, and
I want him back.
00:43:28.532 --> 00:43:29.999 align:middle line:90%
What else can I do?
00:43:29.999 --> 00:43:31.955 align:middle line:90%
I\'m tired of running.
00:43:31.955 --> 00:43:33.610 align:middle line:90%
I\'m doing everything I can do.
00:43:33.610 --> 00:43:35.340 align:middle line:84%
I\'ve joined every organization
I can join.
00:43:35.340 --> 00:43:36.750 align:middle line:84%
I\'m trying to do everything
I can do.
00:43:36.750 --> 00:43:38.120 align:middle line:90%
I want to save the world.
00:43:38.120 --> 00:43:40.020 align:middle line:84%
But it\'s just like, he\'s
really never left.
00:43:40.020 --> 00:43:41.200 align:middle line:90%
I can\'t explain it.
00:43:41.200 --> 00:43:43.830 align:middle line:90%
I know he\'s gone.
00:43:43.830 --> 00:43:46.580 align:middle line:84%
Because they kept trying to tell
me something was wrong.
00:43:46.580 --> 00:43:48.350 align:middle line:84%
But I said, no, I
know he\'s gone.
00:43:48.350 --> 00:43:49.690 align:middle line:90%
I know he\'s gone.
00:43:49.690 --> 00:43:51.010 align:middle line:90%
I know he\'s gone.
00:43:51.010 --> 00:43:53.740 align:middle line:90%
But, I mean, it\'s all over.
00:43:53.740 --> 00:43:54.555 align:middle line:90%
It\'s all over.
00:43:54.555 --> 00:43:55.230 align:middle line:90%
All over.
00:43:55.230 --> 00:43:57.870 align:middle line:84%
Sometimes I just look for the
door at 12:00 so I can holler,
00:43:57.870 --> 00:44:01.800 align:middle line:84%
boy, didn\'t I tell you
to be in at 11:00?
00:44:01.800 --> 00:44:02.920 align:middle line:90%
All of it comes back.
00:44:02.920 --> 00:44:06.000 align:middle line:90%
Like a rushing wind, you know?
00:44:06.000 --> 00:44:07.790 align:middle line:90%
It just floods over you.
00:44:07.790 --> 00:44:10.660 align:middle line:84%
You remember every
little thing.
00:44:10.660 --> 00:44:17.700 align:middle line:84%
I realize sometimes now I
haven\'t really lived a normal
00:44:17.700 --> 00:44:19.820 align:middle line:90%
life in over 12 years.
00:44:19.820 --> 00:44:20.940 align:middle line:90%
And you wake up--
00:44:20.940 --> 00:44:24.632 align:middle line:84%
I was in my 30s, and I\'m waking
up, and I\'m like, God,
00:44:24.632 --> 00:44:29.470 align:middle line:84%
all these years just
passed me by.
00:44:29.470 --> 00:44:31.110 align:middle line:90%
Oh, that\'s coming together.
00:44:31.110 --> 00:44:31.670 align:middle line:90%
That looks pretty.
00:44:31.670 --> 00:44:34.130 align:middle line:90%
Blue, yellow, green.
00:44:34.130 --> 00:44:36.280 align:middle line:84%
You\'re seeing the mosaic
coming together.
00:44:36.280 --> 00:44:40.282 align:middle line:84%
Mosaic is different shapes,
colors, and--
00:44:40.282 --> 00:44:42.820 align:middle line:90%
00:44:42.820 --> 00:44:46.360 align:middle line:84%
Each one of them do represent
a person that was real and
00:44:46.360 --> 00:44:49.050 align:middle line:84%
alive, and should
still be here.
00:44:49.050 --> 00:44:49.820 align:middle line:90%
Yes.
00:44:49.820 --> 00:44:52.310 align:middle line:84%
And it wasn\'t in the wrong
place at the wrong time.
00:44:52.310 --> 00:44:52.740 align:middle line:90%
Exactly.
00:44:52.740 --> 00:44:53.653 align:middle line:90%
I hate that expression.
00:44:53.653 --> 00:44:54.960 align:middle line:90%
I do too.
00:44:54.960 --> 00:44:56.140 align:middle line:90%
So where is the right place?
00:44:56.140 --> 00:44:58.940 align:middle line:90%
Exactly.
00:44:58.940 --> 00:45:01.590 align:middle line:84%
At Brooklyn\'s First Presbyterian
Church, the
00:45:01.590 --> 00:45:04.880 align:middle line:84%
mosaic panels were displayed for
a performance called The
00:45:04.880 --> 00:45:07.610 align:middle line:90%
Children\'s Requiem.
00:45:07.610 --> 00:45:10.320 align:middle line:84%
Composer Judith Fleischer wrote
the requiem, partly
00:45:10.320 --> 00:45:14.180 align:middle line:84%
inspired by Frances
Davis\'s story.
00:45:14.180 --> 00:46:44.320 align:middle line:90%
[MUSIC PLAYING]
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Back in Pennsylvania, Maria
Heil has increased her
00:46:47.420 --> 00:46:51.835 align:middle line:84%
activism to expand the Second
Amendment Sisters.
00:46:51.835 --> 00:46:53.480 align:middle line:84%
But Perkins, I think, would be
good, because it\'s in the
00:46:53.480 --> 00:46:54.950 align:middle line:90%
center of the county.
00:46:54.950 --> 00:46:57.350 align:middle line:84%
The founding fathers I
think were brilliant.
00:46:57.350 --> 00:47:00.100 align:middle line:84%
They wanted the United States
to be unique in that we
00:47:00.100 --> 00:47:03.390 align:middle line:84%
guarantee these freedoms
to people.
00:47:03.390 --> 00:47:07.620 align:middle line:84%
So I think if we can set u
s a Saturday afternoon.
00:47:07.620 --> 00:47:09.000 align:middle line:90%
What do people want most?
00:47:09.000 --> 00:47:10.530 align:middle line:90%
They want their freedom.
00:47:10.530 --> 00:47:12.630 align:middle line:90%
They want to have freedoms.
00:47:12.630 --> 00:47:16.200 align:middle line:84%
And it\'s the Bill of Rights that
guarantees these freedoms
00:47:16.200 --> 00:47:19.470 align:middle line:84%
as far as with the government,
and that\'s the connection
00:47:19.470 --> 00:47:20.240 align:middle line:90%
still today.
00:47:20.240 --> 00:47:21.400 align:middle line:84%
We\'ve got to concentrate
on here.
00:47:21.400 --> 00:47:22.230 align:middle line:90%
There was one.
00:47:22.230 --> 00:47:26.120 align:middle line:84%
We just got a couple new members
from up this way.
00:47:26.120 --> 00:47:28.960 align:middle line:84%
All my neighbors support
what I do.
00:47:28.960 --> 00:47:33.250 align:middle line:84%
There\'s only one who really
doesn\'t think it\'s right.
00:47:33.250 --> 00:47:34.660 align:middle line:84%
The most heartwrenching
has been with
00:47:34.660 --> 00:47:37.190 align:middle line:90%
my family, my siblings.
00:47:37.190 --> 00:47:38.880 align:middle line:90%
Some of them are on my side.
00:47:38.880 --> 00:47:40.870 align:middle line:84%
Some of them just
don\'t see it.
00:47:40.870 --> 00:47:44.100 align:middle line:84%
But each time we\'ve had a
difference of opinion, they\'ve
00:47:44.100 --> 00:47:47.750 align:middle line:84%
come up to me and said, I\'m
glad you\'re so passionate
00:47:47.750 --> 00:47:54.120 align:middle line:84%
about something, and that you
are working to preserve what
00:47:54.120 --> 00:47:55.750 align:middle line:90%
you feel is right.
00:47:55.750 --> 00:47:57.080 align:middle line:90%
Pretty impressive, actually.
00:47:57.080 --> 00:47:59.290 align:middle line:84%
And actually, we\'ve only
been organizing the
00:47:59.290 --> 00:48:01.180 align:middle line:90%
state for about a year.
00:48:01.180 --> 00:48:05.180 align:middle line:84%
Politics involves very much
sticking with it.
00:48:05.180 --> 00:48:09.370 align:middle line:84%
The Million Mom people
represented political
00:48:09.370 --> 00:48:12.630 align:middle line:84%
newcomers, relatively speaking,
and they were not
00:48:12.630 --> 00:48:15.770 align:middle line:84%
really-- or, to date, have not
really been able to sustain
00:48:15.770 --> 00:48:18.750 align:middle line:84%
their own movement in the same
degree of intensity, or to
00:48:18.750 --> 00:48:23.750 align:middle line:84%
translate it into more specific
efforts to change the
00:48:23.750 --> 00:48:25.350 align:middle line:90%
political process.
00:48:25.350 --> 00:48:29.240 align:middle line:84%
By comparison, the people who
support gun rights-- the
00:48:29.240 --> 00:48:32.530 align:middle line:84%
people who are gun owners, the
people who are NRA members--
00:48:32.530 --> 00:48:35.760 align:middle line:84%
are not only skilled, but
they\'re highly motivated.
00:48:35.760 --> 00:48:39.470 align:middle line:84%
The small but well organized
minority can often win the day
00:48:39.470 --> 00:48:42.615 align:middle line:84%
politically over a large but
relatively apathetic majority.
00:48:42.615 --> 00:48:46.040 align:middle line:90%
00:48:46.040 --> 00:48:51.640 align:middle line:84%
For me, being a mom was always
what I wanted to do.
00:48:51.640 --> 00:48:52.590 align:middle line:90%
Is it getting to you?
00:48:52.590 --> 00:48:57.260 align:middle line:84%
I\'m now a different kind of a
mom than I thought I would,
00:48:57.260 --> 00:49:00.340 align:middle line:90%
than I started out to be.
00:49:00.340 --> 00:49:06.700 align:middle line:84%
But part of being a mom includes
trying to guarantee
00:49:06.700 --> 00:49:10.470 align:middle line:84%
the future, trying to make the
world a better place for your
00:49:10.470 --> 00:49:15.540 align:middle line:84%
child, and that\'s what
I feel I\'m doing.
00:49:15.540 --> 00:49:20.478 align:middle line:84%
I\'m trying to preserve America
as we know it.
00:49:20.478 --> 00:49:22.750 align:middle line:84%
And it\'s for the church
picnic tomorrow.
00:49:22.750 --> 00:49:29.848 align:middle line:90%
00:49:29.848 --> 00:49:33.125 align:middle line:84%
A year after the Million Mom
March, the group\'s Brooklyn
00:49:33.125 --> 00:49:36.160 align:middle line:90%
chapter held a local rally.
00:49:36.160 --> 00:49:39.180 align:middle line:90%
Attendance was sparse.
00:49:39.180 --> 00:49:43.580 align:middle line:84%
My children were so much of
a part of who I was--
00:49:43.580 --> 00:49:46.040 align:middle line:90%
a mother.
00:49:46.040 --> 00:49:51.530 align:middle line:84%
Now it\'s like that identity,
that part of me, is gone.
00:49:51.530 --> 00:49:55.005 align:middle line:84%
Just for a moment, like last
year, last Mother\'s Day, there
00:49:55.005 --> 00:49:58.715 align:middle line:84%
was a big hype, and everybody
was talking about the Million
00:49:58.715 --> 00:50:02.082 align:middle line:84%
Moms March and going
to Washington.
00:50:02.082 --> 00:50:04.970 align:middle line:90%
It was one day, and it\'s over.
00:50:04.970 --> 00:50:05.960 align:middle line:90%
Then you go back to your
00:50:05.960 --> 00:50:09.420 align:middle line:90%
communities, and nothing happens.
00:50:09.420 --> 00:50:11.720 align:middle line:84%
For seven years, we\'ve been
doing something on Mother\'s
00:50:11.720 --> 00:50:15.680 align:middle line:84%
Day, whether it\'s a march over
the bridge, a march to the UN,
00:50:15.680 --> 00:50:18.205 align:middle line:90%
a march somewhere.
00:50:18.205 --> 00:50:21.370 align:middle line:84%
For seven years, we\'ve been
doing that, so this is what I
00:50:21.370 --> 00:50:22.620 align:middle line:90%
do every Mother\'s Day.
00:50:22.620 --> 00:50:25.740 align:middle line:90%
00:50:25.740 --> 00:50:28.660 align:middle line:84%
People in America have two
entirely different
00:50:28.660 --> 00:50:31.510 align:middle line:90%
experiences of guns.
00:50:31.510 --> 00:50:35.920 align:middle line:84%
As long as there\'s such a huge
chasm between the two sides.
00:50:35.920 --> 00:50:41.710 align:middle line:84%
It\'s very hard to get them to
agree on any new proposals.
00:50:41.710 --> 00:50:44.575 align:middle line:84%
There appears to be
no middle ground.
00:50:44.575 --> 00:50:47.940 align:middle line:90%
00:50:47.940 --> 00:50:52.920 align:middle line:84%
It\'s tragic to say it, but it
seems to me that the only
00:50:52.920 --> 00:50:56.100 align:middle line:84%
thing which will ultimately
break the impasse would be,
00:50:56.100 --> 00:50:59.245 align:middle line:84%
unfortunately, more incidents
like Columbine.
00:50:59.245 --> 00:51:04.370 align:middle line:90%
00:51:04.370 --> 00:51:07.550 align:middle line:84%
Sometimes I\'m wondering
what\'s going on.
00:51:07.550 --> 00:51:10.400 align:middle line:84%
As Marvin Gaye says, his song,
What\'s Going On, you know?
00:51:10.400 --> 00:51:13.880 align:middle line:84%
Mothers crying, babies dying,
what\'s going on?
00:51:13.880 --> 00:51:19.180 align:middle line:84%
A whole generation of young
men have been annihilated.
00:51:19.180 --> 00:51:20.660 align:middle line:90%
You see the signs.
00:51:20.660 --> 00:51:24.330 align:middle line:90%
Born 1970, killed 1990.
00:51:24.330 --> 00:51:25.470 align:middle line:90%
20 years old.
00:51:25.470 --> 00:51:28.240 align:middle line:90%
1974, killed 1993.
00:51:28.240 --> 00:51:29.080 align:middle line:90%
18.
00:51:29.080 --> 00:51:31.890 align:middle line:90%
And some is 15, 14, 12.
00:51:31.890 --> 00:51:36.120 align:middle line:84%
The list goes on and on and
on and on and and on.
00:51:36.120 --> 00:51:39.070 align:middle line:84%
And I\'ve also lost two nephews
as well to gun violence.
00:51:39.070 --> 00:51:43.110 align:middle line:84%
So that\'s three sons,
two nephews, all
00:51:43.110 --> 00:51:44.900 align:middle line:90%
killed in this city.
00:51:44.900 --> 00:51:46.940 align:middle line:90%
What\'s going on?
00:51:46.940 --> 00:51:49.720 align:middle line:84%
When I was growing up, it was
not like this in my time.
00:51:49.720 --> 00:51:53.350 align:middle line:84%
If we had a beef, as they call
it, or a problem with someone,
00:51:53.350 --> 00:51:54.840 align:middle line:90%
we talked about it.
00:51:54.840 --> 00:51:57.470 align:middle line:84%
And if we had a fight, we pulled
each other\'s hair,
00:51:57.470 --> 00:51:59.230 align:middle line:84%
maybe punched you,
and that was it.
00:51:59.230 --> 00:52:01.470 align:middle line:90%
And we became friends--
00:52:01.470 --> 00:52:03.120 align:middle line:90%
friends!
00:52:03.120 --> 00:52:07.340 align:middle line:84%
Now you look at each other in
the wrong way, or you step on
00:52:07.340 --> 00:52:11.450 align:middle line:84%
somebody\'s shoe, or you say a
wrong word, out come the guns.
00:52:11.450 --> 00:52:14.620 align:middle line:84%
It\'s really important for
us to stay involved
00:52:14.620 --> 00:52:16.300 align:middle line:90%
every single day.
00:52:16.300 --> 00:52:19.290 align:middle line:84%
Somehow we have to figure
out what is going on?
00:52:19.290 --> 00:52:21.940 align:middle line:84%
What can I do to make
a difference?
00:52:21.940 --> 00:52:25.205 align:middle line:84%
I mean, I have stopped young men
from getting in fights who
00:52:25.205 --> 00:52:28.350 align:middle line:84%
had guns, because I was
at that moment--
00:52:28.350 --> 00:52:29.560 align:middle line:84%
I just couldn\'t take
it anymore.
00:52:29.560 --> 00:52:32.540 align:middle line:84%
If you pull out a gun, then
you have to kill me, too,
00:52:32.540 --> 00:52:34.795 align:middle line:84%
because enough is enough
is enough.
00:52:34.795 --> 00:52:36.045 align:middle line:90%
When are you gonna stop?
00:52:36.045 --> 00:53:46.460 align:middle line:90%