Life 4 - When the Cows Come Home

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Away from the beaches and resorts there's another rural Jamaica, struggling to make ends meet on farming. Milk is part of the staple diet of the 2.6 million people living in Jamaica. But dairy production is difficult in tropical climates. Most of the island's milk was imported until early 20th century breeders helped produce a dairy cow that could withstand the island's heat and tropical diseases. They called the breed the Jamaica Hope. But despite the success of the breed, the Jamaican dairy industry is facing a crisis. Jamaica's steps toward sustainable rural development is threatened. This edition of Life looks at how -- with cruel irony -- the Jamaica Hope is under threat from subsidized European Dairy Farmers and ask how Europe's agricultural policies squares with its commitment to the Millennium Development Goals.
'The importance of these films is that they are intended to raise awareness about global issues in young people, and can be used by anyone for this purpose. The quality of the films is excellent. They are documentaries about the U.N. Millennium Development Goals and include brief interviews with people who are actually involved in MDG programs, from various institutions and from the grassroots to executive level...The objective evidence about the current global crisis of insecurity, poverty, gender inequalities, environmental degradation, and lack of international cooperation is presented in a way that is both realistic and non-inflammatory.
Children are the future. Educational materials such as the Bullfrog Films are very important for the future of both humanity and the human habitat...The Bullfrog Films certainly can and should be shown to children, especially to high school students. But these films are most appropriate for those who prepare the children for responsible citizenship, including global citizenship. They are certainly appropriate for parents who want their children to know about the need for human solidarity and environmental sustainability. And, they are most appropriate for training teachers to plant the seed of global concerns in their students' minds and hearts.' Luis Gutierrez, Editor, Solidarity, Sustainability, and Non-Violence Research Newsletter
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Main credits
De Haas, Joost (film producer)
De Haas, Joost (film director)
Kyriacou, Sotira (editor of moving image work)
Richards, Jenny (editor of moving image work)
Bradshaw, Steve (narrator)
Other credits
Editor, Sotira Kyriacou; series editor, Jenny Richards.
Distributor subjects
Agriculture; Business Practices; Central America/The Caribbean; Developing World; Economics; Food And Nutrition; Globalization; International Studies; Millennium Development Goals; Poverty; Sustainable Development; United NationsKeywords
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Previously a life… It is very… very clear
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that development will not take place at the pace that we wouldn\'t
like, unless we address the question of liberalization of trade.
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The moment we stopped
destroying local markets,
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and farmers can get a fair price then
they can send their children to school.
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A lot of people are dyeing
because of trade issues.
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Jamaica sun, sand, rum and reggae,
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a holiday destination
for tens of thousands,
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tourism underpins the entire economy of this
tropical island where over half the population works
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in the service industry it\'s Jamaica\'s
largest foreign exchange on,
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Away from the beaches and resorts
though, doesn\'t another rural Jamaica,
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struggling to make ends meet and
that struggle is symbolized
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by the Jamaica hope a unique and
successful breed, of dairy cow.
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But in a country where
demand for milk outstrips
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what farmers can supply the Jamaica hope and
the dairy industry it should have underpinned
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a facing a crisis. This Life program
investigates why the Jamaica
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hope is under threat from
subsidized European dairy farmers
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and how the European Union\'s agricultural policies
square with the open and transparent trading system
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it\'s signed up to in the
Millennium development goals.
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[sil.]
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Jamaica likes its milk, its part of the staple diet
of many of the 2.6 million people living here,
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but diary productions difficult
in tropical climates
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so most of the island\'s milk was always
imported in the early part of the 20th century
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breeders developed a dairy cow that could withstand
the island\'s heat and tropical diseases.
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They called it the Jamaica hope.
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In a country where one in five Islanders works
in agriculture, it was a major step toward
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sustainable rural development.
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It was such a success that other developing
countries wanted to acquire the Jamaica hope.
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A people of Jamaica
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are extremely proud of Jamaica
hope umm… Jamaica hope is
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uh… Jamaica creation a Jamaican
creation for Jamaican conditions,
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it is able too… to… to… to
survive under the existing
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umm… forage regime that exists in Jamaica.
It is able to also survive
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under the hot, humid tropical environment
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that exists in Jamaica and
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umm… even then produces
fair quantity of milk.
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The Jamaica hope should have helped turn to
Jamaica\'s dairy farmers into a growth industry
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but it hasn\'t, thanks to trade and tariff
barriers subsidies and protected markets,
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Jamaica\'s dairy farmers are suffering.
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It was good in the beginning. I started off
with one cow. I used milk with my hand.
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I got to milk seventeen with my hands.
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Twice a day, I alone…
alone, it was so nice.
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And while I was praying that I could
sell a hundred liters of milk per night,
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If I could sell a hundred liters per night,
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I would make some money. Now I am
selling 2000 liters per night,
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sometimes more, sometimes a little less.
And I still don\'t make money.
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Well, I just like, I just like
doing this work, you know.
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I like this work, you know. Yeah, man, this
work is very nice, you know, nice to me.
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Only one thing, you know,
sometimes things being rough
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that boss can\'t find no money to pay me
sometime, you know. Yeah, things kind of rough
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but I like this work, you know.
Yeah, man… I am really
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create an economy because you know your mate you know
when you come here whenever I work very… very hard
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you don\'t make any money but you still want something
every day I come here a committee it\'s bills,
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your electricity bill is high,
your telephone bill is high, your…
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your… umm… fueled big cost is high
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and milk price is low (inaudible) we
can make it In the 1980\'s the outlook
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for Jamaica\'s dairy farmers had been good.
Production more than doubled,
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up from 17 and a half million liters
and 1981 to 38 million liters by 1992.
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But in 1991 and 1992, Jamaica\'s
economy went into a tailspin.
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The Jamaican government had to sign up to a
series of new loan agreements with the World Bank
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and I.M.F, in return Jamaica had to agree
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to liberalize its economy, Jamaica
had to open up its markets
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to other countries produce. Duties on
imported milk products were slashed
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from 100% to just five percent, This led
to a steady increase in dairy imports,
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in particular of powdered
milk from the European Union
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and Jamaica\'s farmers just couldn\'t compete with
European dairy farmers on production costs.
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[sil.]
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(inaudible). In the beginning we milked by
hand after four years we bought a machine
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and nowadays we mostly cows at
the same time and rounds of 12.
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(inaudible).
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Soon we will expand because we worked
under our capacity. (inaudible).
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Compared to the time when my
wife and I started this farm
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a lot of things have changed. We started on
the eight acres of land with eleven towers.
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(inaudible).
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Now we have 57 acres, (inaudible) 20 cows
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and produce million
liters of milk per year.
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(inaudible).
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Europe\'s rapid postwar population growth
required a massive increase in food production,
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in the 1960\'s Europe introduced
the Common Agricultural Policy
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a system of subsidies that encouraged
formers to boost productivity,
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E.U subsidies helped develop
European agriculture,
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and allowed Europe\'s dairy farmers to
invest in new machinery and new technology
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the result of huge increase in milk production
which began to exceed domestic demand.
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The surplus was sold on the world
market to countries like Jamaica,
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export subsidies kept the
price artificially low,
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But subsidized European milk imports have had a profound
impact on the growth of Jamaica\'s dairy industry.
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In the 1960\'s, there were
4,000 small dairy farmers.
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By 1996, following the arrival of
cheap subsidized milk products,
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this had shrunk to 470. And by
2002, there were just 90 left.
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And it wasn\'t just the small
farmers who suffered.
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My father had been in dairy from in 1940.
He had quite a successful dairy,
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by Jamaican standards, large dairy.
I took over a dairy milk
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in about 400 head of cattle, in 1970,
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full of all the information from college in England,
I had attended a lot of agriculture, so much there,
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brought back a lot of new equipment, new
tractors far as harvest and equipment,
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we brought (inaudible) forest through
(inaudible) Western Hemisphere,
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this continent on not very successfully
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because at the time massive
introductions of milk powder,
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was been brought into the island reconstituted
and sold as fresh milk in competition an a day,
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fresh milk supplied by the farmers. Which
was always a bit of a puzzle to me
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because in a (inaudible) I\'d studied if
milk was being sold in those countries
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their consumers for approximately the same
price as it has been sold in Jamaica yet,
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somehow we were able to bring in,
dried milk from this countries,
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which most of had a large cost (inaudible) to then
involved in reducing it from fresh milk to dried milk,
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I guess it was able to be brought to reconstituted
and saw sold at a lower price than our product
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was being sold for, We actually
got a very good production levels
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but after many years of stressful efforts to
increase our production and doing so successfully
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we were still not able to compete
with costs with the milk powder,
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so eventually I was forced out of the dairy
business and into the fish business.
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The Jamaican Dairy Farmers Federation
claims E.U subsidies mean Europe\'s farmer
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can produce milk at half what
it costs Jamaican farmers.
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They say this is unfair, has made Jamaican
milk uneconomic, and they accuse the E.U
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of dumping its excess milk products,
but European farmers says
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that\'s just market forces.
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It has been determined, that the
dairy industrial been subjected to
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a large degree dumping from
Europe and all the sources,
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we can (inaudible).
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Dead along the heavily (inaudible).
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Farmers in the south world especially
suffer from the backward persuasion.
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(inaudible). When you see that they produce milk
in a country where milk cannot be produced.
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(inaudible). That is like us trying
to grow rice over here. (inaudible).
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They shouldn\'t try but they still do, with cows are
don\'t even produce 700 liters in a year. (inaudible).
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So how can you say that we are
spoiling their milk? (inaudible)
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We have to ask ourselves
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whether it wouldn\'t be better to produce in those
places where it can be done most efficiently
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in quantity and quality.
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(inaudible).
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They must be thankful that we
produce to supply the demand.
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And of it after all do (inaudible).
Resell milk. By (inaudible).
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We don\'t dump.
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[sil.] Transcription missing 11:46-12:15
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We have in the world of six billion people,
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three billion people that live under two dollars a day. uh…
European cows get subsidized to the extent of two dollars
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and 50 cents a day, so there\'s something
disproportionate in terms of the way our
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subsidies are working on the way we\'re
attending to the question of poverty.
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The European Union spends an estimated
16 billion U.S dollars a year
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subsidizing its dairy industry selling its
surplus on to countries like Jamaica.
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In a free market the milk products
imported by Jamaica, are cheap
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and Jamaica still benefits from the five percent import duty
which brings in around three million U.S dollars a year,
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but the result is the Jamaica\'s own dairy
industry is now fighting for survival.
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[non-English narration]
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But they still could go (inaudible). Yeah.
(inaudible). Which is the best one?
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[sil.]
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In the 1980\'s the Jamaican
government tried to help its farmers
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and dairy industry by imposing import
duties, in an attempt to protect
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its domestic market revenues from this were
used to invest in the further development
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of the dairy industry but that all changed when the
government in an attempt to boost Jamaica\'s economy
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applied for loans from the I.M.F,
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Professor Michael Witter represented the
Jamaican government in the negotiations.
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For Continental maker to get a loan it has to be an agreement
with the I.M.F, to get that loan you have to sign away
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you have to sign certain conditionality\'s
and those conditionality\'s
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invariably involved liberalization of the
economy to one degree or another, and as part
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of that liberalization comes removal of
taxes and removal of special concessions
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to local producers. The philosophy
behind that was neoliberal notion
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that markets know best, and
if we remove the protection,
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then our producers would be made
more competitive as a result
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of competition with external,
more efficient producers.
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(inaudible) competitive towards
subsidized markets. Well, well… uh…
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that is what we protested umm… those of
us who disagreed with the liberalization
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and I think it has remained an issue to
present the, the issue of this subsidies
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of in Europe, and the subsidies
in the United States,
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so that in reality we had to buy into what is called a level
playing field policy when there was no level playing field.
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We in the World Bank for a number of years
were encouraging developing countries
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to open their markets, on the basis that there was a
deal done there that we would all open our markets
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what\'s happened in recent years
is that we are getting blamed
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and I think in some cases correctly, so for encouraging
developing countries to open their markets
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and then when they produce they find it\'s difficult
to sell in the developed country markets
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because they\'re blocked, so either we build
barriers on both sides in which case
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the developing countries should build their
own barriers or you should liberalize
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and have a free trade environment, I think
everyone believes that a free market
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is probably in everyone\'s best interests. But what
you cannot have is subsidies and tariffs on one side
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and freedom on the other because it just
doesn\'t work. The conditions attached
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to the loans did bring down inflation but
for Jamaica\'s fledgling dairy industry
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the lack of protection against cheap
European milk Imports a spell disaster
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and interest payments on the loans
have created a vicious circle.
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We can\'t, they didn\'t, no need to borrow unless
we have an agreement with the I. M. F, agreement
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with the I. M. F given our history given the realities, will
not straying from the productive capacity of the economy
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what we need to competition that
it can\'t withstand and therefore
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that, If… if we don\'t produce and we don\'t earn U.S
dollars and other had currencies to (inaudible)
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did then we have to borrow more money so we
go back to the scene people don\'t borrow…
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And that new condition. … new conditions, until
it reached a point in the late in the mid 1990\'s,
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when we were borrowing to pay back previous loans
and indeed there was a net out flow from Jamaica,
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to the International monetary is
fund and world bank for many years.
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The crisis in the dairy industry
has only added to the cycle of
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(inaudible) 40% of Jamaica\'s
population live in the countryside
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three quarters of them on less than a dollar a
day, the decline in the number of dairy farms
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has hit them hard critics blame the negative impacts
of trade liberalization policies particularly
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the cheap subsidized
imports of milk products
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but are they right with the World Bank reporting
a crucial need for poverty reduction programs
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in Jamaica, the European Union is now
adapting its internal subsidies policy.
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The European Union has decided for
itself was a front on the reason
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that the old subsidies is then boosting over
production dumping products on road markets
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harming developing countries was not
necessarily, the policy for the 21st century,
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this is the reason why (inaudible) European
commission, commission official initiated a reform,
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which was decided last year this reform will
completely change the way subsidies are paid
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and also the quantities of money.
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[sil.]
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How much milk can this lorry carry?
33,000 liters.
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How many loads to you transport? Three
per day. That\'s a lot isn\'t it?
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We used to it.
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For Europe\'s farmers
subsidies dairy farming
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had become a way of life, but the subsidies
no longer support increased production
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there now for improving animal welfare
and maintaining Europe\'s environment.
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Subsidies… Subsidies remain necessary,
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not to stimulate production but to
safeguard a landscape (inaudible)…
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Our countryside is very valuable,
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you notice that all around. (inaudible).
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This maintenance of the environment
is something we farmers do as well,
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so is the maintenance of European
markets the E.U acknowledges that
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to stop exporting its dairy products to
Jamaica and other developing countries
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would damage its balance of
payments and its market share.
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Independently from the European policy interests considered Europe
we would completely withdraw from the Jamaican market then.
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Does one really seriously believe
that the Jamaican former
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could compete with the big boys in milk
production who are very competitive
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like New Zealand for example like Australia? So
which means that whatever happens, of course,
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if you take the current situation uh… milk
or milk powder coming from Australia,
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coming from New Zealand, we know has been cheaper
because it\'s easier to produce than then
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umm… milk coming from Jamaica, and I think,
this is a reality uh… people should also face.
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The reality for Jamaica\'s dairy industry is
the trade liberalization has been a disaster
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the hope that the Jamaica hope would prove
a model for sustainable development
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in the rural areas was dashed by the
lack of protection for the farmers
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import duties on imported milk products may have
brought in some income but at the cost of decimating
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Jamaica\'s domestic dairy industry.
Jamaican farmers produce milk
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world market prices what they can\'t do just
compete against the European subsidies
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of 1.5 billion on the exports from
Europe into the world to make sure
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Europe actually produces and dumps
milk below the cost of production.
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They can have compete with New Zealand\'s, and
Australia, either which are not subsidized markets.
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They can compete with a reasonable market price
at the moment clearly there are other countries
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that may be able to produce milk at a lower price but what you must do is
be able to make sure that you\'ve got a dairy industry to produce the milk.
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In 2003
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the World Trade Organization met
in Cancun on Mexico, on the agenda
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the trade barriers between the rich and poor countries.
The USA and the E.U. were reluctant to remove subsidies
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without getting anything in return
and the (inaudible) failed,
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but there are now concessions on the table for the
next round and protection of domestic markets
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is back on the agenda. What
we\'re proposing for example
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WTO is that developing countries, poorer countries
should obviously have the right to protect their markets
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much more than for example Europe. I
think this is clear and should be clear.
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That only two things that can happen either there is a substantial
reform (inaudible) of the a very rigid rules and double standards
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which have been established over
many years by the European Union,
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United States and Japan, all the
trade talks will fail, there is no…
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Two ways about it, the developing countries and all
believe that there is no way that they will sustain,
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they (inaudible) to continue in trade
talks unless that that is an attempt
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to remove the worst iniquities of
the of the instruction trade wills.
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[sil.]
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(inaudible) Import and because they stimulate like
(inaudible). What stimulate of the milk produce.
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The cow produces more milk in the beginning
and the longer it\'s been since in cow,
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less milk produces. What
they need to (inaudible).
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Apart from that\'s they replace
the old a cow\'s in time
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and make it possible to expand the farm.
(inaudible).
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Does important for the production? Yes.
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What she is going to be called? She will be called
(inaudible), a cow is always named after its mother,
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but I don\'t know the number yet.
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(inaudible).
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She is pregnant. But as things are…
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cow… umm… was calf in I wanna
call of it (inaudible).
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Because…
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(inaudible).
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But they calf brings a money. No,
I kill the calf (inaudible).
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(inaudible). (inaudible) I cannot feed it.
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Why not, nobody wants to have to calf.
No, nothing for free
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(inaudible) and I can\'t feed
him, so I get rid of them.
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I think is really hard for us.
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By the amount of work that I put in my farm, if I
would live somewhere else I would be a rich man.