Cheat Neutral
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Since the1960s, concentrations of heartbreak, cheating and jealousy in the atmosphere have risen dramatically. CheatNeutral.com offers a unique market-based solution to this essential problem of modern life. For the cost of a condom, those who have cheated on their partners - whether a drunken hook-up at the office party or a sustained period of bigamy - can have their cheating 'offset' by a global network of fidelity.
This hilarious film follows satirical website creators Alex Randall and Christian Hunt as they try to sell the idea of cheat offsetting to a bemused public. From the high street to the Houses of Parliament, they spark an important and timely debate about the inadequacies of carbon offsetting.
'Ah, the joys of absolution! Cheat Neutral takes a light-hearted look at a serious issue: Is carbon offsetting a viable solution to reduce our global carbon footprint? The video will be useful in numerous educational settings to spur debate on this important question--and it helps that it features two clever young protagonists (with that wonderfully British sense of humor) to whom kids can easily relate. The offsetting movement is well-intentioned but it has the potential to do more harm than good. Consumers can conveniently check off conservation on their 'to do lists' and then go about their business as they merrily pollute. And, in the absence of meaningful regulation, unfortunately there is ample room for unethical scammers to poison the well for the legitimate organizations that really do use the donations to good ends...After all, the proof of the pudding is in the eating. Speaking of which, who can I pay to absorb the calories in that Big Mac I just ate?' Dr. Michael Solomon, Professor of Marketing, Director of the Center for Consumer Research, Saint Joseph's University
'A hilarious send-up of a serious issue. Without moralizing or overly complicating the issue, Cheat Neutral's filmmakers use satiric humor to make an effective and lucid statement about the futility of carbon offsets. The negative aspects of offsets rarely receive media or public attention. Thus, the film makes an essential contribution to debates over climate change and how to address it. Cheat Neutral simultaneously entertains and informs audiences of all kinds, including high school, college and graduate students, about an important subject with far-reaching and long-lasting consequences.' Melissa Checker, Assistant Professor of Urban Studies, Queens College, Author, Polluted Promises: Environmental Racism and the Search for Justice in a Southern Town
'Carbon off-setting is a complex, wonky topic. Cheat Neutral presents the perfect entree to this issue for use in college classrooms. In this engaging, humorous satire of the idea of carbon credits, viewers are treated to a clever portrayal of classic, tongue-in-cheek, often bawdy, British humor. Its presentation is sure to loosen up the audience and then its brevity provides excellent opportunity for more technical discussion and consideration of the idea of carbon credits. Naturally, it allows conversation to also consider alternative ideas as well. This leaves student-viewers poised to think and, possibly, reach a more viable solution to our climate conundrum. Cheat Neutral is a superb resource for courses in Environmental Studies, Policy, Energy, and Climate Science.' Dr. Brian C. Black, Associate Professor, Departments of History and Environmental Studies, Altoona College, Penn State University
'A raucously filmed and edifying look into a story of a hoax, but also the thought and important global point behind it...For high school to adult audiences interested in environmental and media studies, Cheat Neutral is highly recommended.' Dan DiLandro, State University of New York at Buffalo, Educational Media Reviews Online
Citation
Main credits
Stratford, Beth (film director)
Stratford, Beth (cinematographer)
Stratford, Beth (film editor)
Randall, Alex (screenwriter)
Hunt, Christian (screenwriter)
Other credits
Written by Beth Stratford, Alex Randall, and Christian Hunt.
Distributor subjects
Anthropology; Atmosphere; Business Practices; Carbon Offsetting; Climate Change/Global Warming; Critical Thinking; Economics; Energy; Environment; Environmental Ethics; Humanities; Humor; International Trade; Local Economies; Marketing; Marketing and Advertising; Political Science; SustainabilityKeywords
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[MUSIC PLAYING]
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- (SINGING) I'm telling the
birds, telling the bees,
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tell the flowers, telling
the trees, how I love you.
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I'm telling the moon, telling
the sun, telling the stars,
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telling each one how I love you.
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- Oh, this couple.
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- No.
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- See that old couple there?
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- Yeah, if they come over here.
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- Beth.
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Beth, get ready.
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- I tell you, they're
not coming-- oh I see.
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They look too old.
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- How does my hair look?
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- How does my hair look?
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Can you zoom right in on us?
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- Yeah.
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- How much are the balloons?
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- Oh, they're not
for sale, but you
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might be interested
in our new company
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that we're launching today.
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It's called CheatNeutral.com.
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- And what we do is
cheat offsetting.
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So if you're in a
relationship, or you know,
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you're lucky enough to be
with someone, and for whatever
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reason something goes a
little bit wrong, you know,
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and one of you does
something that you probably
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shouldn't have done.
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- Acted like a bastard.
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- Right.
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Well, what you can do
is you can come to us,
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and pay us a small
amount of money,
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and what we do is
we take that money,
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and we invest it in
couples like yourselves
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who are faithful to each
other, and that way we
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can neutralize the
damage that you've
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done to your relationship.
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- Do you think that you might
want to sign up to our website,
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or ever use our services?
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- I'll think about it.
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- Yeah.
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- You ever cheated
on your girlfriend?
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- No, certainly not.
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- Really?
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Why is that?
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- Because-- because it be wrong.
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- And what about if I said
you can pay two pounds
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50 to our new company if you
cheat on your girlfriend,
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and we'll pay someone else
to be faithful for you.
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How about that?
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- No.
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No, no.
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I like my girlfriend too much.
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- That's very sweet.
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Have a balloon.
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- How about if he said,
you know, I got drunk
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and I slept with
someone, but then I
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paid Cheat Neutral
to offset that
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by paying other
people to be single.
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So, you know--
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- No.
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- The total levels of heartbreak
in the world haven't gone up.
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- Yeah, that's all right.
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- You think that would be OK?
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- That would be OK.
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- So if a boyfriend and a
girlfriend agreed that they
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would like to go by this rule,
then you could be like, OK,
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I'll cheat, it'll
only cost me 2.50.
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- That's not financing anything.
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That's just doing
one thing, and then
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doing something else
totally different.
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I don't see the link between
them, except in our minds.
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- I think you'd benefit
more from a campaign
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against something.
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Just stop what you're doing in
the first place, rather than--
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- So you think it'd be better
if people didn't cheat at all.
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Rather than cheated and then
paid someone else not to cheat.
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- Yeah.
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- Stop it at the source.
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- Yeah.
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- Back on the nighttime,
friendly Newstalk 1010 CFRB.
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Jim Burley with you until 11:00.
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Ryan Doyle coming
up at that time.
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CheatNeutral.com.
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What's that all about?
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Get a load of this, folks.
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We're joined right
now by Christian Hunt,
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he is one of the people
behind the website.
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How you doing Christian?
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Yeah, not bad, thanks.
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How are you?
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And Alex Randall from
CheatNeutral.com joins me now.
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- Hi.
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- You got this idea in
the pub, didn't you?
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- CheatNeutral.com is a
pretty innovative idea.
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Can you tell us about it?
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- Well, I'm really
glad you think so.
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- What's your name, sir?
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- Alex.
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- Alex.
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Hang on.
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Beth?
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- It's Alex here.
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- We lost you for a second.
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OK Beth.
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So how does the website work?
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- OK, well we understand,
CheatNeutral.com is that
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cheating and jealousy are just
a natural part of most modern
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relationships.
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And what we needed was
a market based solution
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to dealing with that.
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- So what we what we
offer is a service
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to help you neutralize
your cheating.
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- Does that make sense?
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- No.
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- Right, OK.
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Well I'll--
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- That doesn't make any sense.
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- I think I can--
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- If I'm monogamous, a cheater
puts money into this fund,
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and I get money
because I'm monogamous?
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- That's basically it, yeah.
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What we're making sure is that
the total amount of cheating
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doesn't go up.
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So if you want to cheat,
it's no longer something
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you have to feel bad about.
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It's just something that
you have to neutralize,
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make sure the total amount
of cheating doesn't go up.
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- So if I was on your
little website, sweetheart.
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- Yeah.
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- And I cheated, how much money
would you want me to give?
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- About $5.00.
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- $5.00?
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- Are you kidding me?
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- Yeah.
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- And then that gives you
the-- that makes you allowed
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to cheat?
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- I think you're
encouraging people to cheat.
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- You think I'm encouraging
people to cheat?
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- Well, I mean you're
making it seem like it's OK.
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I mean, do you really think
that by giving you money
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that it's going to
absolve me of any guilt?
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- OK, Jim, well,
I mean, let's look
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at where we got the
inspiration from this idea.
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OK?
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You may have heard
of carbon offsetting.
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- Yeah.
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- You know, the idea that
you can take a plane flight
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or whatever, and you're going
to emit so many tons of carbon.
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- But you can pay into one of
these you know so-called carbon
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offset companies, and
they'll pay someone else
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in a developing
country to plant trees,
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or you know put in some
low energy light bulbs,
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and that absolves of
that guilt as well.
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- So all we're doing is taking
this well-established concept
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of carbon offsetting, and moving
it into the arena of cheating
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and relationships.
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- You got the papers.
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- I got the papers.
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- What did you get?
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- Financial Times.
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I'm not sure where we are.
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Society, Guardian,
and the Daily Mail.
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- Every one of them.
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Fantastic.
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- Yeah.
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- Right.
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It's not going to be in--
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- Do they have and
environment section?
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- This is just jobs.
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This is all jobs.
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It's not going to be in here.
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- Here we go.
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- Reading, reading, read it.
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- Let me introduce you to Alex,
a shy young man you can sponsor
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to offset your own infidelity.
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Pay just two pounds
50 to support
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Alex's celibate existence, and
you can continue your affairs
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with a clear conscience.
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You'll even receive
a certificate.
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Alex is on www.cheatneutral.com,
a spoof of course.
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The idea of offsetting
your infidelity is crazy.
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But a similar madness
actually exists.
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It's carbon offsetting,
and it affects us all.
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It's brilliant.
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And then at the end he says,
in every sector of the economy,
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it is possible to make
changes that will secure
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our future for our children.
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We just need to cherish the
planet, not cheat on it.
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That's great, isn't it?
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We should see if we can get him
to mention us in Parliament.
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- Yeah.
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- Yeah.
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- There is really no place
for carbon offsetting
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in an agenda that
seeks to deliver carbon
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reductions for ourselves.
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Anyone who needs
to understand this,
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just consult a website that
exists at the moment called
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CheatNeutral.com.
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It invites you to
offset your infidelity.
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Does it reduce the sum total
of infidelity in society?
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No, not a jot.
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But it makes you feel better.
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It has that ring
of high moral tone
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that is so attractive to some of
our policymaking at the moment.
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But it is a scam.
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I would just say that they
are-- the website it is not
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a serious website.
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It's intended to
ridicule an approach that
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deserves to be ridiculed.
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- No, we've had loads of email.
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- Yeah.
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- Let's start from the top.
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- "I'm a producer for KTLA
channel 5 News in Los Angeles.
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We're interested in doing
a story about your website,
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and we'd like to know if you
have anyone in the Los Angeles
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area."
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Luckily, we've got
our Los Angeles rep.
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- Our Los Angeles division.
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- "I'm doing a little
story on your website
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for the Daily Telegraph, one of
Australia's largest newspapers.
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I wonder if you might help me
out by answering the questions,
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please."
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- OK.
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Should we do the questions?
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Has anyone mistakenly taken
your site seriously yet?
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And if so, any
interesting tales?
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- The funniest guy
has got to be--
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- Has got to be Loving Links.
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- Loving Links.
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I got a message on my phone.
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Can we just listen to it?
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- Can you put it on the speaker.
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- Thanks.
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OK.
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- June 18.
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- Hi.
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This is a message
for Cheat Neutral.
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My name's David Miller.
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I'm on the Loving
Links organization,
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which is a major resource
for extramarital affairs.
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It really is a
great site, yours.
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Maybe there's some way we
might be able to work together.
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- I mean it's
pretty obvious what
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you're doing, which is
subverting the whole idea
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of carbon offsetting.
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Talk about the serious
point for a second, Alex,
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which is what do you think is
wrong with carbon offsetting?
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Because it may seem a
reasonable idea to some people.
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- OK, the point
we're trying to make
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is that carbon offsetting
doesn't provide us
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with a solution
to climate change,
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and it in fact delays people
in making real changes
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in their lifestyles.
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- What we need to be doing
when faced with climate change
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is cutting our
emissions in the west,
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because that's where the
kind of per capita emissions
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are highest.
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Now carbon offsetting
does absolutely nothing
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to help us cut our emissions.
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Instead it's saying,
look, you can
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go on emitting if you
pay for the privilege.
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- It delays people
changing their own life.
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It delays us making changes to
our industries and economies,
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which at some point
we're going to have
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to do if we're going to meet
the challenge of climate change.
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- Even if the entire
developing world
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was powered by
renewables, we'd still
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have to make dramatic cuts
in emissions in the west.
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And I think that's
something that, you know,
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sooner or later we're going
to have to face up to.
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- And the longer we
put off those changes,
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the harder it's going
to be to make them.
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The more damaging and
the more destructive
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it's going to be
when we do eventually
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have to move to this
low carbon economy.
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- Is part of it this whole--
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everybody wants to save
the planet in a way.
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We all want to--
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we don't want to
destroy the planet,
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but we actually
don't really want
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to have a bad time, either.
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We don't want to do things
that are too hard for us,
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and therefore that's why
carbon offsetting came in
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as a concept.
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Because it's the kind of, I
don't know what you might say,
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environmentalism lite, isn't it?
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It's an easy way.
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- I think there are
a lot of things--
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a lot of easy things
that you can do apart
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from carbon offsetting
that will make
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real and significant reductions
in your personal carbon
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emissions.
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But more importantly
than that, there's
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kind of political action
that you can take.
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- We'd kind of
like it to not have
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to be about personal sacrifice.
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What we really need
is political action.
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We really need some
kind of global framework
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that's going to make
sense of emissions cuts.
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- You can lobby your MP,
there are pressure groups
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you can join to try and
persuade the government
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and influential people to
make the real big policy
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changes that are actually going
to make a difference to climate
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change.
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- I think it's pretty much all
I need for this for this story.
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- Alex, you made me laugh.
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Thank you very much
for joining us.
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Thank you.
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- Christian Hunt
from Cheat Neutral.
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Thank you very
much for your time.
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- OK, cheers, Jim.
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- You wise guy, you.
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- All right, thanks a lot.
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Hello?
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- They hung up.
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Yeah, that's it.
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It's just like, it's this
totally schizophrenic show.
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They have about
five or six people,
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all on the phones at once.
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They have like someone who's
sold their daughter's virginity
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to their husband,
and then us, and then
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some guy talking about aliens,
then this mancow fellow,
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and some prerecorded
snippets, bits of music.
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And it's all just in.
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And he's like, he
thinks I'm called Beth.
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He's like, so, Beth have
you ever used this site?
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How's it going, sweetheart?
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They're mad.
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They're all mad.
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- How many people?
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- Eight to 10 million people
heard me being called Beth.
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- We've arrived.
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[MUSIC PLAYING]
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- I put some money to his pot.
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Excuse me?
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We were wondering if we could
talk to you about our company.
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No, you're not interested.
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OK.
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- We were just wondering
ever cheated on your robot
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girlfriend.
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- Or if you'd be interested
in offsetting that cheating.
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Not interested.
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- You've never cheated
on your robot girlfriend?
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No.
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- No.
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Well thanks, anyway.
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He's put his big shiny cock
somewhere he shouldn't have.
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- Oh, no.
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[MUSIC PLAYING]
